Poll: Majority of Republicans believe Obama is a 'socialist'

Started by jimmy olsen, February 02, 2010, 11:24:38 PM

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dps

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on February 03, 2010, 01:42:23 PM
Quote from: Martinus on February 03, 2010, 02:27:46 AM
QuoteIn addition, 73 percent said openly gay men and women should not be allowed to teach in public schools.

Wow. Just wow.


If that were remotely true, prop 6 would have been a landslide victory, don't you think?


I don't believe anything about this poll.

I think a bunch of people just deliberately gave answers that they didn't really mean, just to fuck with the poll. 

Sheilbh

Quote from: derspiess on February 03, 2010, 04:17:45 PM
I'd say Obama as an individual is at least a Social Democrat.  If his administration's policies haven't borne that out so much, it's due to Democrat moderates in congress & not wanting to get waxed in the midterm & '12 elections.
Do you have any evidence that he's a social democrat?  I ask because neither his administration's policies, nor the policies he ran on, nor frankly his career at Senate or state-level politics really suggest he is.

And I've never heard the "Reid-Pelosi" Democratic Congress described as moderate.  Though I think you're right.
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Quote from: Berkut on February 03, 2010, 12:20:22 PM
He did want to takeover GM, and give it to the UAW.

That at least seems kinda socialist, doesn't it?

I am quite sure he did not *want* to take over GM.  I think he felt his options were somewhat limited when the horribly bleeding body of GM showed up at the White House asking for some band-aids.

If anything the WH has been too reticent to use the rights its of its majority stake and too deferential to the GM BOD, which seems to be amusing itself with a game of executive musical chairs.
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Fate

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on February 03, 2010, 01:42:23 PM
Quote from: Martinus on February 03, 2010, 02:27:46 AM
QuoteIn addition, 73 percent said openly gay men and women should not be allowed to teach in public schools.

Wow. Just wow.


If that were remotely true, prop 6 would have been a landslide victory, don't you think?


I don't believe anything about this poll.

Why not? The poll is of *self-identified Republicans*. These are rather hard core folks. The 20% who still approved of Bush in late 2008. If the radical anti-homosexual agenda didn't have supermajority level support among these guys, then it'd never succeed on a ballot.

They did not poll the squishies like Berkut or Grumbler who call themselves "independents" but vote straight GOP every November. They did not take a random sample of all Americans of voting age.

MadImmortalMan

Quote from: Fate on February 03, 2010, 05:20:45 PM
Why not? The poll is of *self-identified Republicans*. These are rather hard core folks. The 20% who still approved of Bush in late 2008. If the radical anti-homosexual agenda didn't have supermajority level support among these guys, then it'd never succeed on a ballot.

They did not poll the squishies like Berkut or Grumbler who call themselves "independents" but vote straight GOP every November. They did not take a random sample of all Americans of voting age.

Aren't you a "self-identified Republican" when the mood strikes you?  :lol:
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Quote from: dps on February 03, 2010, 04:17:48 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on February 03, 2010, 01:42:23 PM
Quote from: Martinus on February 03, 2010, 02:27:46 AM
QuoteIn addition, 73 percent said openly gay men and women should not be allowed to teach in public schools.

Wow. Just wow.


If that were remotely true, prop 6 would have been a landslide victory, don't you think?


I don't believe anything about this poll.

I think a bunch of people just deliberately gave answers that they didn't really mean, just to fuck with the poll.

You say that about every poll that makes Republicans look like kooks.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Josephus on February 03, 2010, 02:55:51 PM
Quote from: ulmont on February 03, 2010, 01:33:54 PM
Quote from: Josephus on February 03, 2010, 01:19:15 PM
I am sure that more than half of Americans, (and I'm not just picking on them) do not have post-secondary education.

You're wrong.  As of 2008, 54.8% of the US population had some education post-high school.  19.7% had "some college," 8.3% an associate degree, 17.8% a bachelor's degree, and 9.0% a post-graduate degree.
http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/education/cps2008.html

17.8 per cent with a bachelor's degree is nothing to write home about.
That means that 82 per cent of Americans have not graduated from university.
I thought I'd read that the US had the largest percentage of the population with degrees in the world? Not true? :unsure:

Oh, and you have to add the 9% with postgrad degrees to that right, so 26.8% have at least a Bachelor's degree.
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Quote from: Strix on February 03, 2010, 01:19:46 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 03, 2010, 12:24:00 AM
Berkut was unsure about the racist angle.  Alot of people have been pushing it.  This is the second poll that shows a significant number of Republicans think that Acorn stole the election.

Oddly enough I have never met a Republican who thought Acorn had stolen the election.  :unsure:

Well, Diebold stole 2004, so now everybody's even, now aren't they?

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Fate on February 03, 2010, 05:20:45 PM
They did not poll the squishies like Berkut or Grumbler who call themselves "independents" but vote straight GOP every November. They did not take a random sample of all Americans of voting age.

I think Berkut voted for Obama and Kerry. Dunno about grumbler.
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Quote from: Fate on February 03, 2010, 05:20:45 PM
Why not? The poll is of *self-identified Republicans*. These are rather hard core folks. The 20% who still approved of Bush in late 2008. If the radical anti-homosexual agenda didn't have supermajority level support among these guys, then it'd never succeed on a ballot.

They did not poll the squishies like Berkut or Grumbler who call themselves "independents" but vote straight GOP every November. They did not take a random sample of all Americans of voting age.
"Self-identified Republicans" are either people who answered yes to the question are you a Republican, in which case the answers make no sense to many people, me included, or they are some hinky DailyKos filter that renders the results meaningless.

Ed Anger

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 03, 2010, 07:15:04 PM
Quote from: Fate on February 03, 2010, 05:20:45 PM
They did not poll the squishies like Berkut or Grumbler who call themselves "independents" but vote straight GOP every November. They did not take a random sample of all Americans of voting age.

I think Berkut voted for Obama and Kerry. Dunno about grumbler.

I voted Nader.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 03, 2010, 07:41:20 PM
"Self-identified Republicans" are either people who answered yes to the question are you a Republican, in which case the answers make no sense to many people, me included
I don't understand this bit.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Sheilbh on February 03, 2010, 07:47:26 PM
I don't understand this bit.
I would not expect a random survey of registered Republicans to yield these survey results based on the Republicans I know personally.

Viking

Quote from: Ed Anger on February 03, 2010, 07:43:02 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 03, 2010, 07:15:04 PM
Quote from: Fate on February 03, 2010, 05:20:45 PM
They did not poll the squishies like Berkut or Grumbler who call themselves "independents" but vote straight GOP every November. They did not take a random sample of all Americans of voting age.

I think Berkut voted for Obama and Kerry. Dunno about grumbler.

I voted Nader.

He's a Lefty, Green and an Ayrab, not to mention to guy who got "W" elected. U R worse than HlTL8R.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 03, 2010, 07:48:56 PM
I would not expect a random survey of registered Republicans to yield these survey results based on the Republicans I know personally.
They seem largely congruent with other poll results we've had from Republicans though, for example the 50+% who were either unsure whether Obama was born in the country or believed he wasn't.
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