Unusual issue popped up at work

[DisturbedPervert]

If someone legally changes sex are they eligible to serve in the US military?

[grumbler]

If someone legally changes sex are they eligible to serve in the US military?

Can one "legally change sex?"

[ulmont]

If someone legally changes sex are they eligible to serve in the US military?

Can one "legally change sex?"

Yeah.  When the DMV decides to "correct the obvious mistake someone made on your driver's license" - BAM!

[crazy canuck]

If someone legally changes sex are they eligible to serve in the US military?

Can one "legally change sex?"

Yeah.  When the DMV decides to "correct the obvious mistake someone made on your driver's license" - BAM!

Not to mention passport and birth certificates that state the wrong gender.

[The Brain]

Good work. I especially like how you're spilling the story on the Internets.

[grumbler]

If someone legally changes sex are they eligible to serve in the US military?

Can one "legally change sex?"

Yeah.  When the DMV decides to "correct the obvious mistake someone made on your driver's license" - BAM!

Not to mention passport and birth certificates that state the wrong gender.

Gender is one thing, sex is another (related, but different) thing.

How would one "legally" change sex?

[crazy canuck]

If someone legally changes sex are they eligible to serve in the US military?

Can one "legally change sex?"

Yeah.  When the DMV decides to "correct the obvious mistake someone made on your driver's license" - BAM!

Not to mention passport and birth certificates that state the wrong gender.

Gender is one thing, sex is another (related, but different) thing.

How would one "legally" change sex?

One one speaks of sex in a legal context one is speaking of gender.

You are playing dumb, like the dumb blonde who writes in "yes" next to the question of sex on her job application.

[grumbler]

One one speaks of sex in a legal context one is speaking of gender.

You are playing dumb, like the dumb blonde who writes in "yes" next to the question of sex on her job application.

I take it that because you are dodging the question and resorting to mischaracterizations of my position that you do not know the answer to my question, but don't want to admit it! 

It's okay if you don't know, but when you don't its best just to remain silent.

[garbon]

No a lawyer or judge can't change your sex; however a magician can. 

[grumbler]

No a lawyer or judge can't change your sex; however a magician can. 

But would the magician's act "legally" change your sex?  Is there a "legal" sex or gender that one has?

It enters into consideration when one considers things like Title IX in the US, which refers to "sex" and not "gender."  According to the dictionaries I consult, sex is biological and gender is cultural, so I don't see how they could be legally the same, as CC asserts they are.

[garbon]

But would the magician's act "legally" change your sex?  Is there a "legal" sex or gender that one has?

It enters into consideration when one considers things like Title IX in the US, which refers to "sex" and not "gender."  According to the dictionaries I consult, sex is biological and gender is cultural, so I don't see how they could be legally the same, as CC asserts they are.

I was agreeing with you.

[Fate]

What's the legal sex of XXY and XXYY individuals?

[ulmont]

What's the legal sex of XXY and XXYY individuals?

For XXY, the parents usually make a decision at birth (often female, as - to quote a transgender friend - "It's easier to make a hole than a pole.").  This decision has a tendency to haunt the person through their life.

See also http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/gender/beck.html

[Sheilbh]

Yeah well done Hans.  I think that is a difficult/weird issue to have to deal with and from what you've said you dealt with it with tact and kindness

[Bluebook]

How would one "legally" change sex?

In Sweden it goes something like this.

1) Get a diagnosis from a psychiatrist.
2) Hormone treatment + surgery
3) Apply for change at the tax agency (IRS?) (They are responsible for keeping track of all citizens and legal residents)

When 3 occurs, you get a name-change (if you want) and a new social security number (in Sweden the social security number also identifies gender).