Breaking News: 7.0 Earthquake in Haiti

[Savonarola]

The tears of foreign brown/black children power our empire.
Plus, oppression is just fun!

[Slargos]

Royal Caribbean has also pledged $1m to the relief effort and will spend part of that helping 200 Haitian crew members.

The company recently spent $55m updating Labadee. It employs 230 Haitians and the firm estimates 300 more benefit from the market. The development has been regarded as a beacon of private investment in Haiti; Bill Clinton visited in October. Some Haitians have decried the leasing of the peninsula as effective privatisation of part of the republic's coastline.

$1m > 0

200 haitian employees > 0

But don't let FACTS get in the way of OUTRAGED OPINION

[Pat]

And now they've given up trying to find survivors in some places, and are simply setting fire to the ruins. I suppose to stop the spread of disease but I don't even want to think about the people who have survived this far only to be roasted alive. 

[grumbler]

Royal Caribbean has also pledged $1m to the relief effort and will spend part of that helping 200 Haitian crew members.

The company recently spent $55m updating Labadee. It employs 230 Haitians and the firm estimates 300 more benefit from the market. The development has been regarded as a beacon of private investment in Haiti; Bill Clinton visited in October. Some Haitians have decried the leasing of the peninsula as effective privatisation of part of the republic's coastline.

$1m > 0

Not much more, though

200 haitian employees > 0

Not many more, though

But don't let FACTS get in the way of OUTRAGED OPINION

You certainly don't need to remind us of your MO. 

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Royal Caribbean has also pledged $1m to the relief effort and will spend part of that helping 200 Haitian crew members.

The company recently spent $55m updating Labadee. It employs 230 Haitians and the firm estimates 300 more benefit from the market. The development has been regarded as a beacon of private investment in Haiti; Bill Clinton visited in October. Some Haitians have decried the leasing of the peninsula as effective privatisation of part of the republic's coastline.

$1m > 0

Not much more, though

200 haitian employees > 0

Not many more, though

But don't let FACTS get in the way of OUTRAGED OPINION

You certainly don't need to remind us of your MO. 

that 1 million is as much as China gave iirc.
China = fail.

[Sheilbh]

that 1 million is as much as China gave iirc.
China = fail.

Haiti still recognises Taiwan.  In a way it's been good for them because Taiwan and PRC have engaged in something of a humanitarian bidding war.

[Slargos]

Not much more, though

I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that the company was actually not a private enterprise, but an aid agency collecting money for the poor and the set upon.

Yes, in that light, $1 million is certainly chump change. They should be ashamed of themselves!

Not many more, though

Agreed! The utter TEMERITY! That they think they can employ ONLY 200 people. FOR SHAME.

Or to elaborate: I often find myself disagreeing with you, Grumbler, but I seldom find reason to call any question into your style of argumentation.

This time, however, your post amounts to a spluttering pile of feces.

I hope it was just a momentary lapse of judgement.

[Grallon]

So has anyone in Haiti responded positively to the offer of Senegal' president yet?  I hear Senegal isn't in a very good situation either.  I'm thinking the man wants immigrants that will be followed by donations from the international community.

Is altruism *ever* something else than disguised self interests?



G.

[Slargos]

So has anyone in Haiti responded positively to the offer of Senegal' president yet?  I hear Senegal isn't in a very good situation either.  I'm thinking the man wants immigrants that will be followed by donations from the international community.

Is altruism *ever* something else than disguised self interests?



G.

A nonsensical question, since the answer depends on your definition of altruism.

In the extreme definition, since feeling good about ones actions can be seen as the beneficial cause for said actions, altruism is never altruist.

A better question is surely "Do the mud peoples have it in them to be altruist in any sense of the word?"

I cannot answer that question, of course, I can only ask it. 

[Sheilbh]

I hear Senegal isn't in a very good situation either.  I'm thinking the man wants immigrants that will be followed by donations from the international community.

What is it you've heard about Senegal?

[grumbler]

Not much more, though

I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that the company was actually not a private enterprise, but an aid agency collecting money for the poor and the set upon.

Yes, in that light, $1 million is certainly chump change. They should be ashamed of themselves!

Not many more, though

Agreed! The utter TEMERITY! That they think they can employ ONLY 200 people. FOR SHAME.

Or to elaborate: I often find myself disagreeing with you, Grumbler, but I seldom find reason to call any question into your style of argumentation.

This time, however, your post amounts to a spluttering pile of feces.

I hope it was just a momentary lapse of judgement.

It was a joke! 

I thought that last bit would give it away.  Maybe not, given the tone here.

Apologies, in that case.

[Slargos]

It was a joke! 

I thought that last bit would give it away.  Maybe not, given the tone here.

Apologies, in that case.

"Dude, are you being sarcastic?"

"Dude, I just don't know any more..."

In my defense, I don't think I've ever seen the hugs smilie used in anything but a condescending context here. (And I also thought when writing that last part "Wait a sec, I'm guilty of that quite often, aren't I?" But I decided to let it fly.) 

[grumbler]

I wanna give kudos to the helo pilots I have seen on the TV, BTW.  Couldn't tell in all cases whether those were Seahawks (Navy) or Blackhawks (Army) but the pilots were doing an excellenet job, at a fair amopunt of risk, getting low enough to drop supplies without destroying them (but not so low they would get swamped).  It would be incredibly easy to catch a bit of FOD and crash, but they stayed in hover at about 8 feet (which is inside ground effect, making it even tougher) until all the supplies were dropped.

Well-done, guys (and also, and maybe especially, to the aircrews, who had to take the same risks without being able to do a damned thing about it if anything went wrong).  You make Pappa Grumbler proud.

[KRonn]

And not a minute too soon, Chavez weighs in:

Chavez is just angry because the US hasn't yet responded to Venezuela's problems, and sent in troops to help out.   

Lol.. he is such a loser though. I wonder if he's beginning to smell that sulfur around his Presidential Palace?? 

[Josephus]

Honeslty, I'm surprised we haven't heard anything from my friends Raul and Fidel yet. You'd think they'd be worried about all those US boats just miles from their coastline.