NO Need To Buy HOI 3.....Get Arsenal of Democracy Instead

[garbon]

We already aborted Keewie.

[Ideologue]

Point.

[garbon]

Point.

That said, you can pretend that I'm Languish and support my release.

[Ideologue]

Point.

That said, you can pretend that I'm Languish and support my release.

Does your game have stupid carrier air groups? :p

[garbon]

Does your game have stupid carrier air groups? :p

Nope. No carrier groups at all.

[Neil]

Does your game have stupid carrier air groups? :p

Nope. No carrier groups at all.

Good.  The Official Game of Languish doesn't have submarines or carriers.  Those are cowardly.

[Ideologue]

Does your game have stupid carrier air groups? :p

Nope. No carrier groups at all.

Good.  The Official Game of Languish doesn't have submarines or carriers.  Those are cowardly.

It doesn't have dreadnoughts, either.

[I Killed Kenny]

The new DD lovelly: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=438046

[Maladict]

It's out, apparently. 
Has anyone tried it yet?

[HisMajestyBOB]

I bought it and played as UK for a little bit, but haven't had time to play past 1937 yet.
The changes to production will take a bit getting used to, I think. And there's the Naval Brigades, too, although I think the UK can just get away with spamming Fire Control DDs and CLs, rather than trying to have specialized ASW, etc. escorts.

I did try the Korean War battlescenario. It sucks like most battle scenarios, but the US did stage an impressive amphibious assault on Pyongyang that I was only barely able to repulse. Although, it did pull its units out of Busan to do that, so perhaps that wasn't the best move. And for some reason, South Korea is inexplicably Market Liberal in that scenario.

[Ideologue]

I purchased it--I can only assume because of the low price point and lingering impulse-control problems.

Naval, particularly CV, combat doesn't work; it's almost completely bloodless, even after I trebled the sea attack values.  The naval brigade idea is a good one, but it doesn't really matter if six CAGs in tandem can't sink anything, unless the enemy AI turns into a spaz and keeps running its org-broken fleet into yours.  It's not totally unfun, of course, but all the fundamental problems HoI2 had are, probably predictably, replicated fully here.

[HisMajestyBOB]

I really like the way they've changed production and research, though. Balancing between research, production, etc. is more interesting than just maximizing both.

Or it would, if Germany didn't get so much IC.

I'm playing as the US now, and it's 1940. I'm looking forward to seeing how the Pacific War plays out (or fails to). Apparently the Japanese AI is gun-shy and also fails to build up its fleet. I, on the other hand, have a nice but not overly large fleet, but failed to build enough escort ships for those battlewagons and carriers. 

[Martim Silva]

I, on the other hand, have a nice but not overly large fleet, but failed to build enough escort ships for those battlewagons and carriers. 

You have carriers and WHAT?

[HisMajestyBOB]

Battleships.

Ide, in this thread on EU forums someone suggests modding the naval damage multiplier (Naval - Naval Combat STR damage) from 0.5 to anything from 0.8 to 1.4+