Stocks and Trading Thread - Channeling your inner Mono

Started by MadImmortalMan, December 21, 2009, 04:32:41 AM

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crazy canuck

Quote from: Grey Fox on January 29, 2021, 04:20:24 PM
What are the mechanisms to deal with the voting rights associated to the stock being loaned-sold-bought-resold?

The simple answer is that if a share has voting rights attached to it, whoever is the owner of the share has the rights attached to the share.  I am not sure what you are asking.

Admiral Yi

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Quote from: Tyr on January 29, 2021, 05:32:59 PM
I said stock market shenanigans.

You also said this

"At the same time there are those who actively gamble on their failing. And when you've billions resting on companies going under its in your interest to make sure they do. "

alfred russel

Quote from: Tyr on January 29, 2021, 05:32:59 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on January 29, 2021, 02:16:57 PM
Quote from: Tyr on January 29, 2021, 01:51:03 PM

I've seen way too many examples of stock market shenanigans crushing companies that might otherwise have lived on.


Can you name any that resulted from shorting stock?
I said stock market shenanigans.
Vaux is the big one that really hurts for me personally. Literally ripped a hole in the middle of Sunderland which 20 years later still hasn't been fixed.
Then there was 2008 and all of its casualties...

I don't know anything about Vaux, but the story in 2008 generally revolves around the mortgage market and debt market, not the stock market.
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Admiral Yi

Yeah, what is Vaux?  Googling gives me a town in France.  Vauxhall?


Zoupa

Can't you buy stocks a zillion ways? What's the big deal about this app?

Valmy

Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."


Admiral Yi

Quote from: Zoupa on January 29, 2021, 07:52:55 PM
Can't you buy stocks a zillion ways? What's the big deal about this app?

You need to ask someone who buys into the "Robinhood protecting their hedge fund buddies" narrative.

Valmy

Quote from: Zoupa on January 29, 2021, 07:52:55 PM
Can't you buy stocks a zillion ways? What's the big deal about this app?

Well not when you have your money in an app and that is how you buy and trade stocks. You would have to find a completely different way instantly and by that time maybe the position you wanted is no longer available.

But it was not just Robinhood, other stock trading services like TD Ameritrade are also in on it.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 29, 2021, 08:05:03 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on January 29, 2021, 07:52:55 PM
Can't you buy stocks a zillion ways? What's the big deal about this app?

You need to ask someone who buys into the "Robinhood protecting their hedge fund buddies" narrative.

Hey it doesn't matter why they were doing it. Freezing trading in a stock is one thing, only allowing sales and not buys is market manipulation.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

The Larch


Admiral Yi

Quote from: Valmy on January 29, 2021, 08:08:27 PM
Hey it doesn't matter why they were doing it. Freezing trading in a stock is one thing, only allowing sales and not buys is market manipulation.

Isn't the point of market manipulation usually to profit somehow?

Habbaku

The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

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Habbaku

Quote from: Valmy on January 29, 2021, 08:08:27 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 29, 2021, 08:05:03 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on January 29, 2021, 07:52:55 PM
Can't you buy stocks a zillion ways? What's the big deal about this app?

You need to ask someone who buys into the "Robinhood protecting their hedge fund buddies" narrative.

Hey it doesn't matter why they were doing it. Freezing trading in a stock is one thing, only allowing sales and not buys is market manipulation.

It absolutely does matter why they were doing it.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien