Israeli organ borrowing revisited

[DGuller]

Anyway, when it comes down to it if it's an argument between a Swede and Grumbler I bet on Grumbler.

A practical application of the "in the kingdom of the blind" adage.

[Slargos]

Anyway, when it comes down to it if it's an argument between a Swede and Grumbler I bet on Grumbler.

A practical application of the "in the kingdom of the blind" adage.

... "the one eyed man is stoned for heresy"

[DontSayBanana]

A practical application of the "in the kingdom of the blind" adage.

Didn't Paul not make it over here?

[DGuller]

A practical application of the "in the kingdom of the blind" adage.

Didn't Paul not make it over here?

I think Internet forums need to come up with some kind of a death notification system.

[Martinus]

Ignore the likelyhood and assume all of Europe is in array and exhausted from internal strife. Mongols suddenly appear and destroy most of European civilization. Does it follow that European civilization isn't worth anything?

They didn't even destroy Rus, for fuckssakes, and they ruled over it for 200 years.

Well, they did destroy it as a civilization.

True enough. They turned Rus from an arguably European civilization (since it was settled by Swedes) into a Mongol/Asian one, which shows to this day.

[Neil]

Ignore the likelyhood and assume all of Europe is in array and exhausted from internal strife. Mongols suddenly appear and destroy most of European civilization. Does it follow that European civilization isn't worth anything?

They didn't even destroy Rus, for fuckssakes, and they ruled over it for 200 years.

Well, they did destroy it as a civilization.

True enough. They turned Rus from an arguably European civilization (since it was settled by Swedes) into a Mongol/Asian one, which shows to this day.

And then the Russians in turn did the same thing to Eastern Europe.

[DontSayBanana]

I think Internet forums need to come up with some kind of a death notification system.

Joke missed.

Anyway, a "kill button" would be much more entertaining than a "death monitor."

[Malthus]

Quite wrong. You link speaks of "sales of body parts". That is also what the Aftonbladet article mentions as previously well known (have you read it? I linked to it earlier in the thread).

There is absolutely nothing in your link about harvesting Palestinians for organs.

Of course not; because until the Swedish article came out with its inflamatory and zero-evidence allegations, the identities of the cadavers whose organs were harvested without consent was irrelevant.

The Swedish article took a minor story about ethical violations in a pathology lab - allegations investigated a decade ago by the Israelis themselves - and blew it up into a major international incident through gullably swallowing a bunch of innuendo with absolutely no evidence to support it.

This no doubt delights the Slargoses of the world, and re-enforces the ever-popular stereotype of the dumb-as-rocks Swede (Slargos being the poster child for this ), but is hardly the occasion to start handing out an award for excellence in journalism. 

[PDH]

Why are you so mean to rocks, Malthus?

[Slargos]

Quite wrong. You link speaks of "sales of body parts". That is also what the Aftonbladet article mentions as previously well known (have you read it? I linked to it earlier in the thread).

There is absolutely nothing in your link about harvesting Palestinians for organs.

Of course not; because until the Swedish article came out with its inflamatory and zero-evidence allegations, the identities of the cadavers whose organs were harvested without consent was irrelevant.

The Swedish article took a minor story about ethical violations in a pathology lab - allegations investigated a decade ago by the Israelis themselves - and blew it up into a major international incident through gullably swallowing a bunch of innuendo with absolutely no evidence to support it.

This no doubt delights the Slargoses of the world, and re-enforces the ever-popular stereotype of the dumb-as-rocks Swede (Slargos being the poster child for this ), but is hardly the occasion to start handing out an award for excellence in journalism. 

You are glue, etc.

Or rather, in a perfect world you would be.

Glue.

Or a lampshade.

[Barrister]

Of course not; because until the Swedish article came out with its inflamatory and zero-evidence allegations, the identities of the cadavers whose organs were harvested without consent was irrelevant.

The Swedish article took a minor story about ethical violations in a pathology lab - allegations investigated a decade ago by the Israelis themselves - and blew it up into a major international incident through gullably swallowing a bunch of innuendo with absolutely no evidence to support it.

This no doubt delights the Slargoses of the world, and re-enforces the ever-popular stereotype of the dumb-as-rocks Swede (Slargos being the poster child for this ), but is hardly the occasion to start handing out an award for excellence in journalism. 

I would disagree with calling the original story "a minor story about ethical violations in a pathology lab", as it appeared to be a persistent pattern, and consent has long been held as necessary for organ donation.  As such, it was a major lapse and worthy of some comment.

Otherwise I agree with everything you said.

[Slargos]

Of course not; because until the Swedish article came out with its inflamatory and zero-evidence allegations, the identities of the cadavers whose organs were harvested without consent was irrelevant.

The Swedish article took a minor story about ethical violations in a pathology lab - allegations investigated a decade ago by the Israelis themselves - and blew it up into a major international incident through gullably swallowing a bunch of innuendo with absolutely no evidence to support it.

This no doubt delights the Slargoses of the world, and re-enforces the ever-popular stereotype of the dumb-as-rocks Swede (Slargos being the poster child for this ), but is hardly the occasion to start handing out an award for excellence in journalism. 

I would disagree with calling the original story "a minor story about ethical violations in a pathology lab", as it appeared to be a persistent pattern, and consent has long been held as necessary for organ donation.  As such, it was a major lapse and worthy of some comment.

Otherwise I agree with everything you said.

When the revolution comes you will be treated like the rest of the jews.

[Razgovory]

He'll be put amongst the Kings of the Earth?

[Slargos]

He'll be put amongst the Kings of the Earth?

In a manner of speaking.

[Barrister]

I would disagree with calling the original story "a minor story about ethical violations in a pathology lab", as it appeared to be a persistent pattern, and consent has long been held as necessary for organ donation.  As such, it was a major lapse and worthy of some comment.

Otherwise I agree with everything you said.

When the revolution comes you will be treated like the rest of the jews.

Woohoo!