Time for the 80s?

[PDH]

Not really.
Much of the groundwork for the punk sound came from the US however this was all just proto-punk and garage rock.

I pick this out because it is so wrong. Read up on the Ramones and Television. They were not proto-punk or garage rock. Especially, Television's style influenced Malcolm McLaren immensly. The "groundwork" from the US was the first punk bands, the first punk style, and the first punk records.  English punk politicized that country's brand, but it was not the first.

Again, you seem to be reading liner notes from some 1990s music critic who was not around at the time. I barely caught the last bit of the first wave, but I am smart enough to read the history of what I am arguing about.

[PDH]

Sorry Garbs, I know this has little to do with the commercial New Wave of the 80s, but sometimes I see things so wrong I have to argue.

[Capetan Mihali]

I'm just a guy who likes to get drunk
I'm just a guy who likes to dress punk
Get my kicks and live my life

[garbon]

Sorry Garbs, I know this has little to do with the commercial New Wave of the 80s, but sometimes I see things so wrong I have to argue.

No worries.

[Sheilbh]

According to the modern definition though you're obviously a complete idiot if you call the Sex Pistols New Wave. Likewise to call Spandau Ballet post-punk is just utterly wrong.

But Spandau Ballet weren't new wave either.

And to be clear. New Wave AND Punk started in New York, and were copied in Great Britain.  So the movements you speak of are derivative anyway.

Punk did.  New York had no wave so it doesn't count.

It came to be however in the 80s that new wave actually stuck with a particular genre, whatever was called new wave before that is irrelevant. By modern definitions New Wave= pretty poppy stuff that had its peak popularity in the mid 80s.

I'd disagree.  Many of the new wave/post-punk bands such as Human League, Scritti Politti and so on achieved later popularity in the mid-80s, but they all started late 70s as post-punk/new wave.  They also all influenced bands like Spandau Ballet or Duran Duran, but I think they're broadly separate.

[Queequeg]

Punk did.  New York had no wave so it doesn't count.

This is the cleverest post I've read in a long, long time. 
Or a silly mistake.  Heck, they even had the Del-Byzanteens.  They are probably the closest you get in the mid-70s to the roots of 90's Alternative and modern Indie music, especially cause of Sonic Youth and Mission of Burma.

[garbon]

New York

[jimmy olsen]

So Garbon, you're still preoccupied with 1985?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgDh3_snQHE

[garbon]

Can anyone escape their year of birth?

[Admiral Yi]

Can anyone escape their year of birth?

Most people do, by living a year.

[Neil]

Can anyone escape their year of birth?

Most people do, by living a year.

Some people do it even quicker.  It only took me three weeks.

[Warspite]

This whole 80s-revival thing is so a la mode right now. So at our staff Christmas party we decided on having an 80s theme. And then reminding all the 20-30 year olds how bad it actually was by dividing the party venue in half with a wall, herding everyone into the crap part, feeding them only vodka and bread, and then firing them when the wall is knocked down and privatisation is implemented.

[CountDeMoney]

I'm British. Therefore I'm entitled to say that we're a federal republic ruled by a chancellor and you can't argue with me on account of being foreign. Hurray.

That smarmy, snooty, effeminate I'm-British-ergo-smarter-than-you-because-I-sound-like-it-AND-I-use-ergo can only carry you so far.

[Sheilbh]

That smarmy, snooty, effeminate I'm-British-ergo-smarter-than-you-because-I-sound-like-it-AND-I-use-ergo can only carry you so far.

Hey, it's got me this far :p

[Ed Anger]

That smarmy, snooty, effeminate I'm-British-ergo-smarter-than-you-because-I-sound-like-it-AND-I-use-ergo can only carry you so far.

Hey, it's got me this far :p

You can pull it off. Josq, not so much.