Grants Get Ayn Rand’s Ideas Covered in Kentucky Classrooms

[KRonn]

Tolkien was a genuine linguist, so researching his made-up language might be a valuable thing. a whole course seems more than a trifle excessive though.

Obviously the point was a linguistic exercise but it also had the advantage of making the department money by attracting lots of Tolkein nerds who normally would never touch a linguistics class.

What would really be worrying is if the end of term project was to translate Mein Kampf into Elvish. 

[Valmy]

[What would really be worrying is if the end of term project was to translate Mein Kampf into Elvish. 

Hmmmm...people are fascinated by Nazis and elves...what we need is Nazi elves!  I think you have a winner here.

Well I guess ninja pirate Nazi elves.

[Vince]

I'm sure you will both say the exact same thing about The Fountainhead. 

Roark should have got the electric chair.   

[Caliga]

Hmmmm...people are fascinated by Nazis and elves...what we need is Nazi elves!  I think you have a winner here.

Nazi elves is a great idea.  I'ma make a d20 setting with Nazi elves and Roman centurions riding around on Harley road hogs throwing pila. 

[Caliga]

Roark should have got the electric chair.   

Well, at the very least he should have been imprisoned for raping Dominique.  That was a very disturbing scene btw and an effective window into Rand's skewed vision of the world.

[grumbler]

Is it me or is it really important to grumbler that people don't read Mein Kampf? Hmm.

My efforts didn't have the legs I expected them to when I wrote them down.  They are just an embarrassment now.

[grumbler]

Well, at the very least he should have been imprisoned for raping Dominique.  That was a very disturbing scene btw and an effective window into Rand's skewed vision of the world.

It wasn't rape, according to Rand.

[DontSayBanana]

Hmmmm...people are fascinated by Nazis and elves...what we need is Nazi elves!  I think you have a winner here.

Well I guess ninja pirate Nazi elves.

Vampire pirate ninja Nazi elves.  Sucking and sacking before the dawn of time.

[Caliga]

It wasn't rape, according to Rand.

That is sort of my point.

[MadImmortalMan]

It wasn't rape, according to Rand.

That is sort of my point.

Yeah, I never got that either---And yeah, I read it in high school too. Any religion that condones rape has to be evil. Also, how do the Kentucky creationists react to this atheist infiltration, I wonder?

[Caliga]

I would be shocked if that crowd has ever even heard of Rand/Objectivism.

[The Larch]

Hmmmm...people are fascinated by Nazis and elves...what we need is Nazi elves!  I think you have a winner here.

In some fantasy settings, elves' attitudes towards non-elves are downright Hitleresque, so they're not *that* far away.

[grumbler]

It wasn't rape, according to Rand.

That is sort of my point.

So your point was that at the very least, he should have been imprisoned for having consensual sex with Dominique? 

Whatevah.

[Caliga]

Unless I am recalling this scene incorrectly, he started off by raping her and then she started to actually enjoy it.  As I understand it, this is a very uncommon (or maybe even unheard-of) outcome to rape in reality.

[grumbler]

Unless I am recalling this scene incorrectly, he started off by raping her and then she started to actually enjoy it.  As I understand it, this is a very uncommon (or maybe even unheard-of) outcome to rape in reality.

You are recalling it incorrectly.  She wanted him to take her by force.  There was nothing non-consensual about this sex, as Rand has confirmed.

Reality, of course, has nothing whatever to do with Rand novels (and perhaps even her "non-fiction," though that is a matter of debate).

Dunno how it can be your point that this was not rape, and that it is also your point that it "started off" as rape.

I personally think this is a metaphor for Rand's idea of how man treats nature, and why such putative "rape" is actually good, because nature wants to be "raped" (for chaste nature has no purpose).  But that is beside the point that Rand has confirmed that this wasn't rape (and Dominique's later claims and thoughts that it was were lies and self-delusion).