At least 7 dead, 20 wounded in Fort Hood shooting

Started by Kleves, November 05, 2009, 04:31:29 PM

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Viking

Any more clear info about whether this is somebody "going postal" or if this is an example of Daniel Pipes' "sudden jihad syndrome"? Or something else.
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First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Razgovory

Quote from: dps on November 05, 2009, 09:43:55 PM
Quote from: Caliga on November 05, 2009, 09:38:43 PM
CNN is now reporting that the gunman is still alive  :huh:

Guess he got better after they killed him.

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Tonitrus

Quote from: Viking on November 06, 2009, 12:07:42 AM
Any more clear info about whether this is somebody "going postal" or if this is an example of Daniel Pipes' "sudden jihad syndrome"? Or something else.

I'd guess primarily the former with just a slight flavor of the latter.

Queequeg

Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
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Fate

I think one of the reports said he was a Muslim "convert". Was he formerly Jewish or something? Siege is that you?

Martinus

#37
So, apparently the guy was a Muslim convert shrink who got bad performance ratings, was vocally opposed to American interventions in Iraq and Afghanistan (apparently he often fought with his fellow soldiers about that), and was told he will be sent to Afghanistan?

:lol:

Thank God he wasn't gay, though - I mean THEN he would have been a REAL threat to the US military, and would have been discharged faster than he could say "Allahu Akbar. Death to the infidel." 

Martinus


Martinus

Quote from: Tonitrus on November 05, 2009, 08:57:41 PM
The AF is big on this "warrior" thing too.  Alas.

I hope they do not neglect their mages and rogues, though.

Darth Wagtaros

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Caliga

Quote from: Martinus on November 06, 2009, 03:11:54 AM
So, apparently the guy was a Muslim convert shrink who got bad performance ratings, was vocally opposed to American interventions in Iraq and Afghanistan (apparently he often fought with his fellow soldiers about that), and was told he will be sent to Afghanistan?

:lol:

Thank God he wasn't gay, though - I mean THEN he would have been a REAL threat to the US military, and would have been discharged faster than he could say "Allahu Akbar. Death to the infidel."
:lol: Marti makes a good point.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Martinus on November 06, 2009, 03:11:54 AM
Thank God he wasn't gay, though - I mean THEN he would have been a REAL threat to the US military, and would have been discharged faster than he could say "Allahu Akbar. Death to the infidel."

No shit.  They bounce cocknibblers at the slightest hint of a feather boa, but they keep allowing these idiots to stay.

The military needs to recognize that maybe there's a theme to these constant "isolated incidents" involving converted moon worshippers.

Syt

#43
How does "Don't ask, don't tell" work with counselling, anyways? Are lesbian/gay/bi soldiers allowed to talk about this when in session with a psychiatric or spiritual counsellor?

Mind you, in 1983 a German general was forced to resign over allegations of him being homosexual (though general consensus at the time was that there was no connection between being gay and being a security risk).
Little Syt, 6 or 7 at the time, asked his mom what "homosexual" meant.
"When boys sleep with boys."
"You mean in the same room, like at summer camp?"
"No, in the same bed."
"I wouldn't want that. I like my bed for myself."  :mad:

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Martinus

Quote from: Syt on November 06, 2009, 06:31:18 AM
"I wouldn't want that. I like my bed for myself."  :mad:

So at least in this respect, much hasn't changed, has there?

*zing* :P