Pa. high court tosses ‘kids for cash’ convictions. 6500 convictions dismissed.

[dps]

If that's the source of a problem, it's easy to fix, though.  Don't pay them per prisoner--just pay them a fixed amount each year to provide X number of cells. 

Yeah, but if not enough people got to prison, eventually the number of cells contracted for goes down.  Same incentives, just slightly less direct.

Well, as I noted, we don't exactly have the problem of having too many prison cells.

[Martinus]

If that's the source of a problem, it's easy to fix, though.  Don't pay them per prisoner--just pay them a fixed amount each year to provide X number of cells. 

Yeah, but if not enough people got to prison, eventually the number of cells contracted for goes down.  Same incentives, just slightly less direct.

Well, as I noted, we don't exactly have the problem of having too many prison cells.

From the article I assumed that prisoners are directed to prisons located in the court district they were sentenced, more or less. Is the over-crowding of non-federal prison a problem that exists in every single court district in America?

[Malthus]

the problem is you are ignoring countering incentives that mitigate against this happening, of course.

I still think that Cambyses had the best "incentive" - upholstery. 

[Neil]

The benefits of a classical education:

Personal foul, unnecessary Die Hard reference, 15 yards.  Repeat the post.

The Commish says that no Die Hard reference is unnecessary.

[DontSayBanana]

Hey, sorry to bother you like this, but I was on the way to Korea, and my boat had a flat tire, so I kind of need an inner tube.

[Berkut]

Still waiting for Marty to provide the data showing how corruption is rampant in the US due to this inevitable and incontestable adverse incentives.

[Scipio]

But again, how is this indicative of some kind of flaw in the system of using private juvenile detention facilities? Maybe it is - maybe this is the inevitable result of such a system - but I have seen no data to suggest that is the case.

One doesn't really need statistical data to expect that the system will be flawed - it's human nature. 

Indeed.  What use is evidence or research when we have gut emotion!

You just need to listen to your body.

[Camerus]

 

[dps]

But again, how is this indicative of some kind of flaw in the system of using private juvenile detention facilities? Maybe it is - maybe this is the inevitable result of such a system - but I have seen no data to suggest that is the case.

One doesn't really need statistical data to expect that the system will be flawed - it's human nature. 

Indeed.  What use is evidence or research when we have gut emotion!

You just need to listen to your body.

So Marty = Meri?

[Caliga]

You just need to listen to your body.

I like your new schtick.

[Ed Anger]

I should privatize my languish viewing.

[The Minsky Moment]

What I am saying is what Alatriste already said so there is no point in repeating that - the system in which a private businessman is running a prison facility and earns money based on the number of inmates he has inside incentivises responses that are incompatible with the alleged goals of the justice and penitentiary systems.

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But how do you go from that to the conclusion that judicial corruption is inevitable or likely as a result?  After all, judges routinely make rulings in private disputes involving vast sums of money, and sometimes even involving repeat players.  The incentives for suborning corruption are always present.  Yet actual instances of such corruption are rare.

[Malthus]

What I am saying is what Alatriste already said so there is no point in repeating that - the system in which a private businessman is running a prison facility and earns money based on the number of inmates he has inside incentivises responses that are incompatible with the alleged goals of the justice and penitentiary systems.

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But how do you go from that to the conclusion that judicial corruption is inevitable or likely as a result?  After all, judges routinely make rulings in private disputes involving vast sums of money, and sometimes even involving repeat players.  The incentives for suborning corruption are always present.  Yet actual instances of such corruption are rare.

Well, actual instances of judges being caught at it are rare, at least.