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Started by merithyn, October 26, 2009, 09:11:01 AM

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merithyn

So, a friend of mine sent me a link to a translation of an unbelievable story that supposedly comes from a Roman in ~70 B.C.

http://mvtabilitie.blogspot.com/search/label/Celtic%20Studies

But the thing is, I've never heard of this guy, this story, nor this writing attributed to him. My bullshitometer is flying off the scale. I haven't been able to find any citations for this supposed tale, nor of the author or book.

Can someone else verify that this is a true story? It would, of course, be interesting if so, but I'm not buying it until I see something a little more solid than that guy's blog.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Brazen

Quote from: merithyn on October 26, 2009, 09:11:01 AM
So, a friend of mine sent me a link to a translation of an unbelievable story that supposedly comes from a Roman in ~70 B.C.

http://mvtabilitie.blogspot.com/search/label/Celtic%20Studies

But the thing is, I've never heard of this guy, this story, nor this writing attributed to him. My bullshitometer is flying off the scale. I haven't been able to find any citations for this supposed tale, nor of the author or book.

Can someone else verify that this is a true story? It would, of course, be interesting if so, but I'm not buying it until I see something a little more solid than that guy's blog.
Yup, I call bullshit too. It reads as fiction and even the loosest translation of text from around that time reads nothing like that. You don't get huge tracts of dialogue like that outside plays.

Also, earliest first-person travelogue? Hello, Herodotus?

Jos Theelen

QuoteFrom Atratinus' De Britannia Insula, c. 70 BC: this is the earliest first-person travelogue from the ancient world

Nothing on internet about this book, so I think its bullshit.

Slargos

Quote'I am Speech', said one face.
'I am Dawn', said another.
'Lukii, I am Your Father', said the third, and she pointed again at the Dagodeiwos.

I call bullshit. :thumbsdown:

Malthus

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Valmy

Yeah this is as suspect as that Cicero quote American Conservatives use sometimes that actually came from a Kansas City newspaper.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Caliga

Fake.  As Brazen mentioned, this style of writing is nothing like what contemporary authors produced.
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merithyn

Quote from: Brazen on October 26, 2009, 10:07:56 AM
Yup, I call bullshit too. It reads as fiction and even the loosest translation of text from around that time reads nothing like that. You don't get huge tracts of dialogue like that outside plays.

Also, earliest first-person travelogue? Hello, Herodotus?

That was pretty much what I figured, too.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

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Lucidor

Quote from: Valmy on October 26, 2009, 10:15:39 AM
Yeah this is as suspect as that Cicero quote American Conservatives use sometimes that actually came from a Kansas City newspaper.
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Ed Anger

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Quote from: Lucidor on October 26, 2009, 03:10:17 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 26, 2009, 10:15:39 AM
Yeah this is as suspect as that Cicero quote American Conservatives use sometimes that actually came from a Kansas City newspaper.
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It's fake.

The giveaway is that there are no furries, which were a highly popular literary trope at the time that were woven into all the period's travel literature.
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Martinus

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Quote from: Ed Anger on October 26, 2009, 03:00:34 PM
Th Druids deserved everything that happened to them.

I agree.

First they put people into cages and set them on fire. Then they try to pass themselves as a nature-loving bunch of peaceniks and do-gooders.

They are like tories.