Don't go naked in your own home--you might get arrested.

Started by MadImmortalMan, October 21, 2009, 04:07:00 PM

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Valmy

Quote from: Malthus on October 22, 2009, 10:30:23 AM
Naked coffee making as viewed by trespassers isn't quite the same.

The principle is the same.  They would have to prove in the Springfield case that the accused deliberately made coffee in this way so others would see him.
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Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 10:33:03 AM
Quote from: Malthus on October 22, 2009, 10:30:23 AM
Naked coffee making as viewed by trespassers isn't quite the same.

The principle is the same.  They would have to prove in the Springfield case that the accused deliberately made coffee in this way so others would see him.

I may run up against Rule 34 here, not to mention setting someone up with a great line ... but to my knowledge, coffee making isn't usually considered in the same light, erotically speaking, as wacking off.  ;)

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Valmy

Quote from: Malthus on October 22, 2009, 10:35:27 AM
I may run up against Rule 34 here, not to mention setting someone up with a great line ... but to my knowledge, coffee making isn't usually considered in the same light, erotically speaking, as wacking off.  ;)

I am aware of that, which is why proving that will be basically impossible for the court IMO.  I am not sure what leg they have to stand on.
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Was that picture taken during the incident in question?

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Quote from: Delirium on October 22, 2009, 09:29:25 AM
Quote from: Viking on October 22, 2009, 08:13:18 AM
This is just unfair. I bought my flat to be able to lay out a game of WiF and walking around naked alone at home when I feel like it.

That's really just a counter argument.

what a pun-ishing wit you are.
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Quote from: KRonn on October 22, 2009, 09:32:13 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 22, 2009, 09:28:29 AM
For the record, this story is already being reported throughout Europe (including in Poland) as an example of "LOL STOOPID AMERIKKKANS".
Just goes to show that Euros report too much non-newsworthy items from the US.  ;)

No kidding. Talk about serious inferiority complex.
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Quote from: Martinus on October 22, 2009, 09:31:01 AM
Quote from: Berkut on October 22, 2009, 09:01:19 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 08:40:32 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 21, 2009, 05:49:13 PM
America. :D

Will you get over your sex-phobia in this century or will it carry over into the next?

I cannot hear you over the third world countries calling us sex addicts and immoral perverts.

To be fair, Poland isn't really a third world country - with their recent advances, I think they are up to second and a half world.










Yes, I know.

Well, I'm for one happy to be living in a "second and a half world" country where I wouldn't get arrested for walking naked around my flat.

You won't get arrested for that here either.
Quote from: Martinus on October 22, 2009, 10:12:46 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 10:08:53 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 22, 2009, 09:36:29 AM
Not sure I get the point behind your retort. Are you trying to say that you guys are attempting to walk the middle ground between Western democracies and oppressive islamist theocracies?

If that's the case, then I guess you are on the right track. Otherwise, you make little sense.

Everybody is a critic and they all give us shit for our supposed sex issues.  I suspect it more has to do with their own sex issues being projected on us.

If one group is not going out of their way to stereotype 300 million+ people for being puritans another is going out of their way casting us as perverts.  It  is all just standard bullshit anti-Americanism.
So tell me, is this bullshit anti-Americanism, or simple projection, that causes you to prosecute a guy for going around naked in his living room?

Don't give me bullshit like this. We are talking about a specific case, one that is retarded and shouldn't even go to a prosecutor's desk, not to mention a court. It happens, though, and it happens in America.

You don't even know anything about this, and you are absolutely certain that it is bullshit AND that it reflects some kind of generic trait about America - because you know, people get arrested ALL THE TIME in the US for this kind of stuff, right?

Lots of things happen in lots of places. I bet there are any number of inane court cases going through even such a bastion of reason and free thought like Poland.

This is about your anti-Americanism, and nothing more. Indulge in it, I imagine it is all you have.

Christ, thank god the guy wasn't gay.
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Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 10:18:58 AM

Well it might be true that the decentralized nature of our legal system means we have alot more of them though.

That is actually a far better agument for "Lol only in America"

Meaning it is IMHO more typically American to try these weird cases in court, due to tradition and differences in court system.

Here we have plenty of strange cases, but one like this would be tossed before it even saw a judge :)

Which doesn't mean this one wontofc :)

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Berkut

The story has been updated, and of course the original was rather selectively "reported"

QuoteSPRINGFIELD, Va. - The woman who reported to police that a man in a Springfield home exposed himself to her and her son has a different story than what Eric Williamson has told to local media.  The woman told police it was 8:40 a.m. when she was walking her son to school along a path between houses. She said they first spotted Williamson naked in an open door in the car port of his home.
She also told police that Williamson then walked across the house to a large window, facing the way she was walking.


So according to her they were not trespassing, and he was not in his kitchen, and clearly made an effort to be seen.


None of that may be true, but it does make it rather obvious why he was charged. I don't see how they can prove it happened though.
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Quote from: Martinus on October 22, 2009, 09:36:29 AM
Not sure I get the point behind your retort. Are you trying to say that you guys are attempting to walk the middle ground between Western democracies and oppressive islamist theocracies?

If that's the case, then I guess you are on the right track. Otherwise, you make little sense.
The point is, I think, that it is hard to tell the pinheads who mistakenly think Americans are puritans from the pinheads who think Americans are mistakenly hedonists.

In fact, if I cannot see someone in order to tell whether or not he or she has a towel on his/her  head, it is pretty much impossible to tell smug Euros from smug Saudis.
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Quote from: Berkut on October 22, 2009, 11:40:45 AM
So according to her they were not trespassing, and he was not in his kitchen, and clearly made an effort to be seen.
It does not say she was not trespassing.  Paths between houses are generally on private property.
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