Don't go naked in your own home--you might get arrested.

Started by MadImmortalMan, October 21, 2009, 04:07:00 PM

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Barrister

Quote from: saskganesh on October 21, 2009, 05:03:08 PM
if we assume the opposite, it's 5:30 in the afternoon and he is making coffee fully clothed in her front yard.

look, that's an absurd axiom. if you have a communication issue with reporters, that's a public relations issue which as a public employee, you have a responsibility to address.

Not that you assume the opposite facts, but the opposite of the axoim I suggested.  In other words, you should assume that something in the story is inaccurately being told.

Hey - as a public employee I have spent a fair bit of time talking to the media.  I remember spending some time with a young reporter with the Whitehorse Star just filling her in on some basic information on a file I had nothing to do with, just so she had the basic law correct.

But due to privacy concerns, and not wanting to try cases in the media, the prosecution can typically not reveal much evidence in advance of the trial itself.  So most reporters are only left with information told to them by defense, or by so-called "experts" who know very little.  Which means every news story about a criminal case is not telling the entire story.
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Martinus

America. :D

Will you get over your sex-phobia in this century or will it carry over into the next?

Martinus

Anyway, while I am normally not in favour of the "no snitching" campaign, that bitch who reported the guy to the police should have her brains blown out after being raped with a splintery broomstick.

Martinus

Either way, the bitch and her dumb brat were on the guy's private property, right? Pity he didn't shoot them down.

Josquius

Fucked up.
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grumbler

Quote from: Barrister on October 21, 2009, 05:07:35 PM
Not that you assume the opposite facts, but the opposite of the axoim I suggested.  In other words, you should assume that something in the story is inaccurately being told.

Hey - as a public employee I have spent a fair bit of time talking to the media.  I remember spending some time with a young reporter with the Whitehorse Star just filling her in on some basic information on a file I had nothing to do with, just so she had the basic law correct.

But due to privacy concerns, and not wanting to try cases in the media, the prosecution can typically not reveal much evidence in advance of the trial itself.  So most reporters are only left with information told to them by defense, or by so-called "experts" who know very little.  Which means every news story about a criminal case is not telling the entire story.
All this is very true, and should be extended; all accounts about anything are lacking "the entire story."  One must look carefully to see what facts might be left out by the recounter of a story as "unimportant," since no one can recount all possible facts pertinent to any story.  Legal cases are just a worse example of this phenomenon, for the reasons you note.
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grumbler

Quote from: Delirium on October 22, 2009, 05:06:06 AM
But is that a practical way to go about your life?
Making coffee in the nude?  Better that than frying bacon in the nude.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Barrister on October 21, 2009, 04:19:42 PM
Quote from: Malthus on October 21, 2009, 04:18:35 PM
This is indeed incredibly dumb, assuming the facts are accurate. Why are prosecutors wasting their time on this shit?

Never, ever assume that all the facts about a crime story are accurately reported.  Indeed, I would suggest you assume the opposite.

Yes, what they fail to mention is the mitigating circumstance of his morning wood.  THAT'S INTENT RIGHT THERE BUDDY

DontSayBanana

Story does leave some inconsistencies for me, but mostly pointing to how the woman and kid were where they shouldn't be...

If the guy's making coffee in the kitchen, he'd be covered up by the counter, unless he's freakishly tall.

Most houses' "ground" floor is slightly elevated, so in addition, they would have to be looking up at a window in order to catch a view.

The only exception I can think of is a plate glass door in the kitchen, which would most likely mean the "victims" weren't in the front yard at all...
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Viking

This is just unfair. I bought my flat to be able to lay out a game of WiF and walking around naked alone at home when I feel like it.
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A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

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I walk around my house naked under my clothes all the time - am going to be in trouble?
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Viking

Quote from: PDH on October 22, 2009, 08:14:02 AM
I walk around my house naked under my clothes all the time - am going to be in trouble?

Don't think so, but if a crazy woman with her kid breaks into your home and pulls your pants down you might be done for indecent exposure.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.