Louisiana judge denies marriage license to interracial couple

[DontSayBanana]

I am curious, though. What if your religion did see interracial marriage as sinful?

I'm thinking of that University which banned interracial dating until fairly recently on religious grounds, and was denied federal funding as a consequence.

Religious freedom is guaranteed only so far as it doesn't interfere with other rights granted, and is by no means universal: see restrictions on animal sacrifices.

[ulmont]

Yes, plus assuming voting gays answer exit polls in the same proportion as the voting population.  I tend to think they are underrepresented in the voting population (supported by Meri's 5% stat), but YMMV.

You think gays vote less frequently than straights?  Gays are more educated, which correlates with voting, and more politicized, which correlates with voting.

Out gays are generally younger than the general population, which correlates negatively with voting and more cynical, which correlates negatively with voting.  And then there's the impact of the clubbing lifestyle.

[Faeelin]

Yes, plus assuming voting gays answer exit polls in the same proportion as the voting population.  I tend to think they are underrepresented in the voting population (supported by Meri's 5% stat), but YMMV.

You think gays vote less frequently than straights?  Gays are more educated, which correlates with voting, and more politicized, which correlates with voting.

Out gays are generally younger than the general population, which correlates negatively with voting and more cynical, which correlates negatively with voting.  And then there's the impact of the clubbing lifestyle.

Which is?

[ulmont]

Yes, plus assuming voting gays answer exit polls in the same proportion as the voting population.  I tend to think they are underrepresented in the voting population (supported by Meri's 5% stat), but YMMV.

You think gays vote less frequently than straights?  Gays are more educated, which correlates with voting, and more politicized, which correlates with voting.

Out gays are generally younger than the general population, which correlates negatively with voting and more cynical, which correlates negatively with voting.  And then there's the impact of the clubbing lifestyle.

Which is?

Negative towards voting.

[The Minsky Moment]

This is a license, though, not performing a marriage.  Of course, this is Napoleonic Code (LA TM) so YMMV.  Fucking Napoleon.

Regardless of the content of state law, a state official can't act in violation of the federal constitution.  Hurray for the 14th Amendment.

[Scipio]

This is a license, though, not performing a marriage.  Of course, this is Napoleonic Code (LA TM) so YMMV.  Fucking Napoleon.

Regardless of the content of state law, a state official can't act in violation of the federal constitution.  Hurray for the 14th Amendment.

Yes, I know.  My point is, that he is not obligated to perform marriages; however, he cannot deny them a marriage license.

[DontSayBanana]

Sounds like a lot of us are arguing the same side; it's possible his office has enough authority to withhold service on an assumption made in good faith, but his rationale is certainly not one; even if you accept his concern to be about child welfare rather than race (which it's not, since his assumption is based on the ethnicity of the possible offspring), a quick glance at the breakdown of Louisiana courts shows that that's outside his purview.

[Barrister]

It's not that you're not allowed to discriminate: you are.  But you can not discriminate based on illegal grounds.

In this instance: you can discriminate because you don't do weddings, or you don't work weekends, or only if you get paid a certain amount.  But discrimination based on certain criteria, like race, would be prohibited.

What if you're religion opposed interacial marriages?

Are there any credible religions that oppose interacial marriages?

[garbon]

What if you're religion opposed interacial marriages?

Are there any credible religions that oppose interacial marriages?

Besides one has bigger issues to think about if one is a religion.

[Admiral Yi]

Are there any credible religions that oppose interacial marriages?

Bob Jones University, which is I think Baptist affiliated, until recently didn't permit interracial dating.

Mormons until a few decades back didn't ordain blacks, which is kind of related.

[Barrister]

Are there any credible religions that oppose interacial marriages?

Bob Jones University, which is I think Baptist affiliated, until recently didn't permit interracial dating.

Mormons until a few decades back didn't ordain blacks, which is kind of related.

I had the mormons in mind when I wrote that, knowing they'd changed that policy 30 years ago.

Are there any credible religions left that don't permit mixed-dating?

[Admiral Yi]

Are there any credible religions left that don't permit mixed-dating?

Pretty sure there aren't any that would revoke church membership over it.

[Jaron]

The Mormon church frowns upon it. Remember that only 30 years ago blacks weren't allowed in heaven by their rules.

[Martinus]

Yes, plus assuming voting gays answer exit polls in the same proportion as the voting population.  I tend to think they are underrepresented in the voting population (supported by Meri's 5% stat), but YMMV.

You think gays vote less frequently than straights?  Gays are more educated, which correlates with voting, and more politicized, which correlates with voting.

Open, out-of-closet vocal gays are more educated because their educated non-homosexual peers are usually more open-minded, tolerant and accepting.

However, this certainly does not mean gays are more educated than the general populace.

In fact, I would say that considering difficulties gay kids face (social ostracism, family rejection, lack of access to religious education, tendency towards depression as a result of the above, tendency towards drugs due to some negative aspects of gay clubbing culture, lack of inter-generational support, until recently lack of positive adult role models etc.), gay kids are more likely to drop out of high school or college than heterosexual kids of the otherwise similar social background. In a way it's like being a black ghetto kid but it cuts across the entire social spectrum and is often excerbated by negative messages from the family, the churches and the government.

Such people rarely vote. They are disfranchised, usually end up being part of some social outcast group (sex workers for example).

This is especially pronounced among non-white populations, where stigma against being gay is extremely strong. In fact it has been suggested that the higher rates of HIV among heterosexual black women is partially due do the fact that many homosexual black men actually take wives because of social ostracism, and their male-to-male sexual encounters are done in risky environments (for example without proper protection), partially due to internalised homophobia.

[Eddie Teach]

There is nothing admirable about this, retard. He IS obstructing somebody, the article made that clear enough. Yes, people are entitled to their own opinions about race. If it bothers you so much, don't date or marry outside your own. You can absolutely NOT prevent others from doing so based on YOUR convictions. The fact I'm even having to argue this with you guys is really disgusting.

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