When experiencing art, are you bothered by the artist's views/actions?

Started by Martinus, October 11, 2009, 01:49:35 PM

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When you watch/experience a work of art, is your perception of that art affected by the person of the artist?

No. The art exists independently of the artist.
11 (34.4%)
Yes, but only if the aspect of the artist (e.g. his views or past behaviours) you disagree with feature in his art.
8 (25%)
Yes, it colors my perception somewhat, but I try to watch the work of art anyway.
5 (15.6%)
Yes, and I actively boycott the work of art of the artist with whom I disagree.
8 (25%)

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DGuller

#45
October 12, 2009, 09:30:44 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 12, 2009, 08:06:14 AM
Quote from: Caliga on October 12, 2009, 08:04:33 AM
So wait... when did Prince start hating gays?  :huh:

Some time 6 months ago or so. He gave some interview where he came out as this rabid Christian fundie.  :huh:
Wow, you met Prince 6 months ago?  :w00t:

Martinus

#46
October 12, 2009, 09:42:02 AM
Quote from: DGuller on October 12, 2009, 09:30:44 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 12, 2009, 08:06:14 AM
Quote from: Caliga on October 12, 2009, 08:04:33 AM
So wait... when did Prince start hating gays?  :huh:

Some time 6 months ago or so. He gave some interview where he came out as this rabid Christian fundie.  :huh:
Wow, you met Prince 6 months ago?  :w00t:

Not all people who hate gays do it because they met me.  <_<

Savonarola

#47
October 12, 2009, 11:42:05 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 12, 2009, 01:31:29 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on October 11, 2009, 06:18:47 PM
option two.

I'm am not a fan of New Criticism, as I believe Art has context, which it cannot be seperated from.

So when you see what a loser Nietzsche was, or what a political failure Machiavelli was, you pretty much have to reappraise their works.

The problem with this example is that neither Nietzsche nor Machiavelli were artists. ;)

Machiavelli was; in addition to being a statesman and a political philosopher, Machiavelli wrote novels, plays and poems. 
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MadImmortalMan

#48
October 12, 2009, 11:49:12 AM
Voted the second option. When they inject the bad parts of their personality/ideology into the art. Ex: Terry Goodkind.
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Valmy

#49
October 12, 2009, 11:55:28 AM
I honestly try to know as little about the artist as possible so I can enjoy their art for what it is.  If they become so public with their craziness that even I know about it, despite my best interests, then yes I will do my best to avoid their art in the future.

I also do not need to know if, for example, an actor playing a big sports fan character is actualy a big sports fan.  It colors how I judge their performance so I really do not want to know anything about actors specifically.
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#50
October 12, 2009, 12:01:54 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 12, 2009, 08:06:14 AM
Quote from: Caliga on October 12, 2009, 08:04:33 AM
So wait... when did Prince start hating gays?  :huh:

Some time 6 months ago or so. He gave some interview where he came out as this rabid Christian fundie.  :huh:

He's been a JW (practicing and going to people's ho,mes with Watchtowers and everything) for several years now. it's not news in the least.
:p

ulmont

#51
October 12, 2009, 12:21:41 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 12, 2009, 11:49:12 AM
Voted the second option. When they inject the bad parts of their personality/ideology into the art. Ex: Terry Goodkind.

Orson Scott Card, John Ringo...

Caliga

#52
October 12, 2009, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on October 12, 2009, 12:01:54 PM
He's been a JW (practicing and going to people's ho,mes with Watchtowers and everything) for several years now. it's not news in the least.
It is to someone like me who doesn't give a rat's ass about Prince.  :cool:
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Neil

#53
October 12, 2009, 02:08:26 PM
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garbon

#54
October 12, 2009, 02:09:10 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 12, 2009, 11:49:12 AM
Voted the second option. When they inject the bad parts of their personality/ideology into the art. Ex: Terry Goodkind.

Your example has nothing to do with art. :huh:
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#55
October 12, 2009, 02:09:55 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 12, 2009, 02:08:26 PM


I didn't take you as the kind of person who would go to patriotresource.com, let alone steal their images.
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Neil

#56
October 12, 2009, 02:11:12 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 12, 2009, 09:42:02 AM
Not all people who hate gays do it because they met me.  <_<
Perhaps, but the generalization holds true on Languish, at least.
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#57
October 12, 2009, 03:04:25 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 12, 2009, 02:09:55 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 12, 2009, 02:08:26 PM


I didn't take you as the kind of person who would go to patriotresource.com, let alone steal their images.

What makes you think he didn't google the image?
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#58
October 12, 2009, 03:39:47 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on October 12, 2009, 11:42:05 AM


Machiavelli was; in addition to being a statesman and a political philosopher, Machiavelli wrote novels, plays and poems.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that.  I did read his play the Mandrake Root.  Still I don't think his difficulty getting a job can really be considered in him writing a sex comedy.
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MadImmortalMan

#59
October 12, 2009, 03:46:42 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 12, 2009, 02:09:10 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 12, 2009, 11:49:12 AM
Voted the second option. When they inject the bad parts of their personality/ideology into the art. Ex: Terry Goodkind.

Your example has nothing to do with art. :huh:

True 'nuff.
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