2010 Could Easily Be Disastrous For Democrats

[garbon]

The stimulus bill is pretty much the only big new spending thing that has come out so far.

Oh that little thing.

[Valmy]

In a perfect world, the Blue Dogs

I am sort of comfortable with neither party being able to get anything done without the Blue Dogs.  It seems to have kept the floodgates closed pretty well so far.

[derspiess]

Why are you a Republican?  What sorts of things do you think they will do if they take control of both houses of Congress again in 2010?

Jeez Valmy, let the kid cheer for his team.  For once, it's a team I don't despise

[Admiral Yi]

The Blue Dogs have been pretty good at holding back the storm.  The stimulus bill is pretty much the only big new spending thing that has come out so far.

And the lip service we are getting now is that the health coverage will be done without increasing government spending.

You should include the $100 billion in TARP money that was gifted to the UAW.

On health coverage I think you mean the deficit, not government spending.

[Martinus]

To the opponents of Obama's health care plan: how do you propose to address the fact that a portion of the American population has no health care and can't get one because they are unemployed, can't afford one and/or cannot get one due to an existing illness (e.g. people suffering from HIV)?

Or is this not a concern to you?

[Valmy]

Oh that little thing.

I thought it was a classic Keynsian reaction to the economic crisis.  Of course it was done in a fucked up way but it is Congress after all.

If doing something theoretically whithin standard economic dogma is the extent of the rampant spending that actually happens I think we will have weathered the storm rather well.

[Valmy]

Jeez Valmy, let the kid cheer for his team.  For once, it's a team I don't despise

I just wanted to get Tim talking about the article and his opinions and not just the standard '' or ''

[Eddie Teach]

To the opponents of Obama's health care plan: how do you propose to address the fact that a portion of the American population has no health care and can't get one because they are unemployed, can't afford one and/or cannot get one due to an existing illness (e.g. people suffering from HIV)?

Or is this not a concern to you?

It's not a concern to them.

[derspiess]

A conservative website writes an article stating the Democrats will get trounced in an election over a year away.

Color me shocked. 

There are quite a few doom & gloom conservative writers out there

Speaking of which, my copy of this should arrive today:



Derb

[derspiess]

To the opponents of Obama's health care plan: how do you propose to address the fact that a portion of the American population has no health care and can't get one because they are unemployed, can't afford one and/or cannot get one due to an existing illness (e.g. people suffering from HIV)?

Or is this not a concern to you?

It's none of my business.

[Martinus]

To the opponents of Obama's health care plan: how do you propose to address the fact that a portion of the American population has no health care and can't get one because they are unemployed, can't afford one and/or cannot get one due to an existing illness (e.g. people suffering from HIV)?

Or is this not a concern to you?

It's not a concern to them.

Then I'm glad I do not live in a country where greed and egoism trump compassion and social conscience.

[Martinus]

To the opponents of Obama's health care plan: how do you propose to address the fact that a portion of the American population has no health care and can't get one because they are unemployed, can't afford one and/or cannot get one due to an existing illness (e.g. people suffering from HIV)?

Or is this not a concern to you?

It's none of my business.

You are not a Christian, are you?

[garbon]

Or is this not a concern to you?

x

[derspiess]

You are not a Christian, are you?

Yes, and I am charitable.  I just don't like forced charity.

[Valmy]

To the opponents of Obama's health care plan: how do you propose to address the fact that a portion of the American population has no health care and can't get one because they are unemployed, can't afford one and/or cannot get one due to an existing illness (e.g. people suffering from HIV)?

Or is this not a concern to you?

My biggest concern is the extent that health care costs are skyrocketing and the middle man, the insurance companies, have all the power and a ridiculous amount of the costs goes to the overhead of supporting this middle man.

I feel that if we can get that under control we have a chance of the market becoming more accessible in the future.  The leftist solution is to create a competing public option to drive down prices but I think that has the potential to blow up the federal budget in the future and I hope more moderate reforms can be tried first.

I can only hope the Republicans see the need to reform the system even if they come to power because I believe it is needed.  Reforms that might be able to address the problems alot of people have in getting coverage as well that hopefully will not continue to saddle us with huge and unsustainable entitlement costs.