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Favorite National Epic?

Started by Queequeg, March 25, 2009, 02:10:05 PM

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Favorite national epic, in prose or poetic form.

The Epic of Gilgamesh (Sumer)
2 (4.5%)
The Illiad (Ancient Greece)
9 (20.5%)
The Aeneid (Rome)
3 (6.8%)
Ramayana (India)
0 (0%)
Beowulf (Anglo-Saxons)
3 (6.8%)
Shahnameh (Persian)
0 (0%)
The Song of My Lord (Spain)
1 (2.3%)
The Divine Comedy (Italy)
1 (2.3%)
Táin Bó Cúailnge (Ireland)
3 (6.8%)
The Eddas (Norse)
5 (11.4%)
The Nibelungenlied (Germany)
2 (4.5%)
Romance of the Three Kingdoms (China)
4 (9.1%)
Paradise Lost (England)
2 (4.5%)
Moby-Dick (USA)
3 (6.8%)
War and Peace (Russia)
0 (0%)
Kaevala (Finns, other Uralic freaks)
2 (4.5%)
Other
4 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 43

Queequeg

I tried to keep the biggies.

Sorry if I confuse anybody; I translated the titles of a few, half translated others...
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Martinus


The Brain

Moby Dick? meowtf

I suppose the Eddas.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Queequeg

#4
Quote from: Martinus on March 25, 2009, 02:13:44 PM
You forgot Poland. :p
I did it on purpose.

Timmy, I specifically said "National Epic" as several of these are in prose anyway. 

Moby-Dick seemed the best American answer to Milton and Dante, but that could be argued about.  Didn't want to leave out such an important country when we have Ireland there.    I'd argue that the slot for Paradise Lost as a "national epic" is more questionable than Moby-Dick though.
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

The Brain

Quote from: Queequeg on March 25, 2009, 02:16:13 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 25, 2009, 02:13:44 PM
You forgot Poland. :p
I did it on purpose.

Timmy, I specifically said "National Epic" as several of these are in prose anyway. 

Moby-Dick seemed the best American answer to Milton and Dante, but that could be argued about.  Didn't want to leave out such an important country when we have Ireland there.

Why would America necessarily have a national epic?
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Savonarola

#6
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 25, 2009, 02:13:33 PM
Moby Dick is not an epic poem.

However it is an epic drum solo.

In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

Queequeg

Quote from: The Brain on March 25, 2009, 02:18:05 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on March 25, 2009, 02:16:13 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 25, 2009, 02:13:44 PM
You forgot Poland. :p
I did it on purpose.

Timmy, I specifically said "National Epic" as several of these are in prose anyway. 

Moby-Dick seemed the best American answer to Milton and Dante, but that could be argued about.  Didn't want to leave out such an important country when we have Ireland there.

Why would America necessarily have a national epic?
The Uzbeks, Filipinos and Finns have one.  No way they get one and we don't.
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Caliga

I voted the Iliad, but I like the Odyssey better.  Your selection of poll options is a bit odd... but then again, you're Spellus (or used to be). :hug:
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Queequeg

Sav, how did you vote?  You've had avatars and profile quotes from several of these.
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Sheilbh

Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 25, 2009, 02:13:33 PM
Moby Dick is not an epic poem.

You should have posted "John Brown's Body"

http://www.amazon.com/John-Browns-Stephen-Vincent-Benet/dp/092958726X/ref=cm_lmf_tit_15
Walt Whitman's America's epic poet.

I don't think the Shahnameh's considered an epic by anyone.  It's the Persian national book and series of tales but there's another Medieval Persian poem that is considered the national epic but I can't remember its name :(
Let's bomb Russia!

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Caliga on March 25, 2009, 02:20:27 PM
I voted the Iliad, but I like the Odyssey better.  Your selection of poll options is a bit odd... but then again, you're Spellus (or used to be). :hug:
Ah, it all makes sense now. I was wondering who that was.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
1 Karma Chameleon point

Queequeg

Quote from: Caliga on March 25, 2009, 02:20:27 PM
I voted the Aeneid, but I like the Odyssey better.  Your selection of poll options is a bit odd... but then again, you're Spellus (or used to be). :hug:
I couldn't decide if I wanted the Spanish one to be Mio Cid or Don Quixote, or Igor's Campaign or War and Peace for Russia.  Split the choice, made it weird. Also, should have cut out the Tain as Ireland is a terrible, terrible place.
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Sheilbh

Divine Comedy, followed by War and Peace.

QuoteI voted the Iliad, but I like the Odyssey better.  Your selection of poll options is a bit odd... but then again, you're Spellus (or used to be). :hug:
The Odyssey's not noble enough, perhaps?  And preferring it's really recent.  Until the turn of the 20th century the emphasis was overwhelmingly on the Iliad.
Let's bomb Russia!

grumbler

The US epic is The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.

This isn't even a subject of debate.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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