Sacrificial Virgins of the Mississippi

[Tonitrus]

OK.  So:

ACORN put the hit on the white people while Jaron plotted with the youngsters to destroy the town, but they were stopped when Belechik sacrificed virgins to Tonitrus.

I wish I had sacrificial virgins. 

[Valmy]

So what you're trying to tell me is that ancient Native Americans were: human!?  Unpossible 

A purer natural human

[The Brain]

I have decided that I need a bigger tomb complex than originally planned.

[Agelastus]

 

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Languish Lives!

[Gambrinus]

[Malthus]

I'm interested in reading that book. The native american urban cultures of north america have always interested me - it is a shame that they are not better known.

Most people are totally oblivious to their existence. If you ask most about "indians", they think of people on the cultural level of Apaches - not people building big urban centres, or even, in the case of the Anasazi, pre-columbian apartment buildings.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chaco_Canyon_Pueblo_Bonito_digital_reconstruction.jpg

http://www.cdarc.org/pages/what/resources/online_exhibit_chaco_2.php

[Caliga]

I'm not oblivious.

We have a site like that right here in the Louisville area called "Devil's Backbone".  It's located at the confluence of the Ohio River and Fourteen Mile Creek in Charlestown, Indiana.

Some fringe theorists think a Welsh dude named Prince Madoc built a fortress there circa 1170. 

[MadImmortalMan]

Some fringe theorists think a Welsh dude named Prince Madoc built a fortress there circa 1170. 

A common theory among American settlers in the early 1800s was that there were large tribes of previously-Welshmen inhabiting the interior of North America. It's one of the things Meriwether Lewis and Jefferson discussed during the preparations for his trip to the Pacific. I honestly don't know where that theory originated.

[Malthus]

I'm not oblivious.

We have a site like that right here in the Louisville area called "Devil's Backbone".  It's located at the confluence of the Ohio River and Fourteen Mile Creek in Charlestown, Indiana.

Some fringe theorists think a Welsh dude named Prince Madoc built a fortress there circa 1170. 

It's a common thread: pretty well every impressive pre-columbian structure is alleged by someone to have been built by some sort of old world exiles or travellers.

The reason is that by the time White folks arrived, mostly before White folk ever even saw native cultures, they were decimated and reduced to a very low subsistance level of living (the exception was oddballs like de Soto) - mostly by epidemic diseases spreading well in advance of actual european observers.

Of course, many of these cultures had already mostly collapsed for reasons not fully known hundreds of years before Euros even showed up.

Naturally, many Euros thought that the local Indians, wretched as they were, could not possibly be the descendants of the people who built such elaborate structures.

[The Brain]

Some fringe theorists think a Welsh dude named Prince Madoc built a fortress there circa 1170. 

A common theory among American settlers in the early 1800s was that there were large tribes of previously-Welshmen inhabiting the interior of North America. It's one of the things Meriwether Lewis and Jefferson discussed during the preparations for his trip to the Pacific. I honestly don't know where that theory originated.

Have you ever been to Wales? It's a ghastly place. Huge gangs of tough, sinewy men roam the Valleys, terrorizing people with their close-harmony singing.

[Caliga]

A common theory among American settlers in the early 1800s was that there were large tribes of previously-Welshmen inhabiting the interior of North America. It's one of the things Meriwether Lewis and Jefferson discussed during the preparations for his trip to the Pacific. I honestly don't know where that theory originated.

I do.  It's thought that Queen Elizabeth I's court advanced an earlier Welsh folktale (that possibly originated with the St. Brendan sagas from Ireland originally) to help concoct/justify claims on North America.

[DisturbedPervert]

Naturally, many Euros thought that the local Indians, wretched as they were, could not possibly be the descendants of the people who built such elaborate structures.

Angkor Wat was built by time traveling Space Romans. 

[Malthus]

Naturally, many Euros thought that the local Indians, wretched as they were, could not possibly be the descendants of the people who built such elaborate structures.

Angkor Wat was built by time traveling Space Romans. 

I thought it was built by a time-travelling Gary Glitter.

At least, that's what he *said* he was doing there.

[Caliga]

All that being said, I think it's important to just not dismiss out of hand revisionist theories about alternate builders of cities, etc.  I'm sure alot of people laughed at Helge Ingstad as he began unearthing L'Anse aux Meadows.

[Savonarola]

Angkor Wat was built by time traveling Space Romans. 

They called themselves Space Romans, since they saw themselves as the direct heirs of the Space Roman Empire but most historians call them Space Byzantines.