Darwin Film Too Controversial for america

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Razgovory

#45
September 14, 2009, 01:47:38 AM
It would be sad to think that  38% of Americans can believe a theory to be "correct".  A scientific theory can't be proven only disproven.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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DGuller

#46
September 14, 2009, 02:03:40 AM
Quote from: Alatriste on September 14, 2009, 12:26:28 AM
The truth that can be defined is not the definitive truth, as Lao Tze could have said.
I guess that depends on how you define definitive truth, doesn't it?

Eddie Teach

#47
September 14, 2009, 02:36:48 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 14, 2009, 01:47:38 AM
It would be sad to think that  38% of Americans can believe a theory to be "correct".  A scientific theory can't be proven only disproven.

Correct is not a synonym of proven.
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Razgovory

#48
September 14, 2009, 03:10:22 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 14, 2009, 02:36:48 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 14, 2009, 01:47:38 AM
It would be sad to think that  38% of Americans can believe a theory to be "correct".  A scientific theory can't be proven only disproven.

Correct is not a synonym of proven.

In fact, I did a search for "synonym", "correct", and "prove".  Apparently it is.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

dps

#49
September 14, 2009, 03:34:47 AM
Quote from: Martinus on September 14, 2009, 01:44:08 AM

The article states that only 38% of Americans think the theory of evolution is correct. Do you dispute this number?

I'll dispute that.  The article states 39%, not 38%.               :P
















Ok, on a serious note, I suspect that the poll worded the question strangely.  Probably something along the lines of, "Do you think it's possible that Darwin's theory of evolution is not correct?" and only 39% said "no" and then that got reported as "61% said that it's possible that Darwin's theory is wrong".  But you can think that Darwin was right, and still say that it's possible that he was wrong.

Eddie Teach

#50
September 14, 2009, 03:39:44 AM
I bet you think "not guilty" is the same as innocent as well.
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Razgovory

#51
September 14, 2009, 03:43:37 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 14, 2009, 03:39:44 AM
I bet you think "not guilty" is the same as innocent as well.

Close enough for government work.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

dps

#52
September 14, 2009, 03:48:50 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 14, 2009, 03:43:37 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 14, 2009, 03:39:44 AM
I bet you think "not guilty" is the same as innocent as well.

Close enough for government work.

I have a hunch that you don't know what that phrase means, either.

Jos Theelen

#53
September 14, 2009, 03:54:32 AM
QuoteMovieguide.org, an influential site which reviews films from a Christian perspective, described Darwin as the father of eugenics and denounced him as "a racist, a bigot and an 1800s naturalist whose legacy is mass murder". His "half-baked theory" directly influenced Adolf Hitler and led to "atrocities, crimes against humanity, cloning and genetic engineering", the site stated.

:x

Razgovory

#54
September 14, 2009, 04:29:20 AM
Quote from: dps on September 14, 2009, 03:48:50 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 14, 2009, 03:43:37 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 14, 2009, 03:39:44 AM
I bet you think "not guilty" is the same as innocent as well.

Close enough for government work.

I have a hunch that you don't know what that phrase means, either.

I have a hunch you missed the joke.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Brazen

#55
September 14, 2009, 04:37:03 AM
If nothing else, I think the casting's pretty controverisal. Paul Bettany as a sexy strawberry blonde Darwin?

Viking

#56
September 14, 2009, 04:38:07 AM
A scientific theory is a set of theorems, postulates and laws which are consistent with each other, explain all observations and are contradicted by none. It is the closest we can get to truth outside of mathematics.

You do not get to vote on it though. It is either a theory or it fails one of the three tests above and thus is garbage. Voting doesn't change any of this.

If Americans who want to watch that movie can't in the theatres, they can probably catch it on PBS or BBC America next year some time.
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Valmy

#57
September 14, 2009, 08:29:46 AM
Quote from: Martinus on September 14, 2009, 01:44:08 AM
The article states that only 38% of Americans think the theory of evolution is correct. Do you dispute this number? Because if it is true, it is pretty much crazy and extraordinary, your claims about benevolent and sane denominations notwithstanding.

What the article said is that 39% of the Americans believe in evolution.  I am not sure of the nuances of that.

Frankly 39% of Americans being intelligent enough to have an opinion on the subject is sort of refreshing.

But that does not mean everybody outside of New York and LA is religious and follows a religion that includes explicit rejection of the theory of evolution as part of its dogma.
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#58
September 14, 2009, 09:23:54 AM
Bettany-Connelly lost whatever indie cred they still have left when they left Brooklyn and moved to Tribeca like every other DeNiro wannabe Hollywood hipster.  No wonder they can't get their precious distribution.
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BuddhaRhubarb

#59
September 14, 2009, 12:09:45 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 13, 2009, 11:55:26 PM
Keep that Darwinistic shit out of my country  :mad:

yeah since The USA has no interest in freedom of religion, or speech. :rolleyes:
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