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[Fate]

So is it basically all spectacle/explosion porn/pretty scenery then? I might enjoy it best with ear plugs then when I see it. Get all the good visuals but can miss the noble savage, one with the earth-mother bullshit. 

Also maybe its explained in the film, but why wouldn't you just wipe out the natives with bioweapons?

It's not explained. Mother fucking primitives beat the Space Marine Corp with mother fucking bow and arrows.

Fuck that shit man.

Nuke them from orbit.

Or at least pull out the smallpox blankets before you return to Earth in "defeat."

[Admiral Yi]

Is there a 3D humping scene?

[Slargos]

So is it basically all spectacle/explosion porn/pretty scenery then? I might enjoy it best with ear plugs then when I see it. Get all the good visuals but can miss the noble savage, one with the earth-mother bullshit. 

Also maybe its explained in the film, but why wouldn't you just wipe out the natives with bioweapons?

It's not explained. Mother fucking primitives beat the Space Marine Corp with mother fucking bow and arrows.

Fuck that shit man.

Nuke them from orbit.

Or at least pull out the smallpox blankets before you return to Earth in "defeat."

The events are reasonable in a fashion. The Alien Invasion is not a governmental operation, think more like the East India Company than the British Empire.

When I left the theater I pondered the sad fact that they at most bought themselves another decade of peace, since the company will simply come back in 6-10 years time with better weapons and there's no combination of élan and Planet Consciousness that will beat orbital bombardment. 

But that's really not the point of this movie.

[Grallon]

Are we too jaded for anything?  Seriously it seems to me no matter comes forth we've seen it all already.  But I agree care should have been lavished on the script as much as on the visuals.




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[Slargos]

Are we too jaded for anything?  Seriously it seems to me no matter comes forth we've seen it all already.  But I agree care should have been lavished on the script as much as on the visuals.




G.

I've seen people describe it as "in the post-modern age nothing is new" but frankly, this story was a bit too predictable even for that cop out.

I found myself almost word for word speaking some lines ahead of the actors, and I don't think I was served a single surprise, plot-wise.

Then again, most movies rehash the same stories in new settings so I don't really see it as a huge problem.

[Fate]

Is there a 3D humping scene?

Unfortunately there was a 3D dry humping scene.

[MadImmortalMan]

Are we too jaded for anything?

Coming from the guy who hypes every coming game and then takes the piss out of it after he buys it? You're like the Sith Lord of this kind of shit. 

[crazy canuck]

It's not explained.

Actually, if you had been paying attention, it was.

First, these were not marines with the resources they might have at their disposal.  These were a bunch of ex marines who were acting as security for a company mining operation.

Second, given that it was a mining operation, the company still needed to have people on the ground to you know, mine..... so any kind of persistent biological/nuclear option was out.

Third, they did think they were going in with overwelming force so why would they have nuked from orbit?

Fourth, I have broken the Cal rule by actually responding to you.

[crazy canuck]

When I left the theater I pondered the sad fact that they at most bought themselves another decade of peace, since the company will simply come back in 6-10 years time with better weapons and there's no combination of élan and Planet Consciousness that will beat orbital bombardment. 

But that's really not the point of this movie.

Agreed.  But the dialogue deals with this to a point,  they had the choice of standing up to the company and taking their chances or simply rolling over and giving up. 

[Caliga]

Fourth, I have broken the Cal rule by actually responding to you.

I think it might be ok to respond to Fate when a thread isn't political in nature.  I need more data to be sure.

[Grallon]

Agreed.  But the dialogue deals with this to a point,  they had the choice of standing up to the company and taking their chances or simply rolling over and giving up.

Still, from what you tell us the plot is essentially accessory to the showcasing of this 'new' technology yes?  But even despite the weak script I think a worst offense are the cardboard characters - like that colonel.




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[Slargos]

When I left the theater I pondered the sad fact that they at most bought themselves another decade of peace, since the company will simply come back in 6-10 years time with better weapons and there's no combination of élan and Planet Consciousness that will beat orbital bombardment. 

But that's really not the point of this movie.

Agreed.  But the dialogue deals with this to a point,  they had the choice of standing up to the company and taking their chances or simply rolling over and giving up.

True enough, and given the level of the story itself, I don't think the script writer intends for anyone to consider "what happens afterwards".

The "good" guys have won, and that's the end of the story.

Stories like these generally have a lot of holes and double-juu-tee-effs but the over all picture is not the point of the story. It's the struggle and the message, rather than the cold bleak reality.

[Solmyr]

Visual effects are the only reason to see this, really. Also, Sigourney Weaver is a total MILF.

[Barrister]

True enough, and given the level of the story itself, I don't think the script writer intends for anyone to consider "what happens afterwards".

The "good" guys have won, and that's the end of the story.

Stories like these generally have a lot of holes and double-juu-tee-effs but the over all picture is not the point of the story. It's the struggle and the message, rather than the cold bleak reality.

Actually I'm pretty sure I read that Cameron hopes this will lead to sequels, spinoffs, etc.

[Slargos]

True enough, and given the level of the story itself, I don't think the script writer intends for anyone to consider "what happens afterwards".

The "good" guys have won, and that's the end of the story.

Stories like these generally have a lot of holes and double-juu-tee-effs but the over all picture is not the point of the story. It's the struggle and the message, rather than the cold bleak reality.

Actually I'm pretty sure I read that Cameron hopes this will lead to sequels, spinoffs, etc.

I'm sure he does, but I don't see how they can pick this storyline up from where they left off without a pretty massive suspension of disbelief.

There's probably other ways to explore the universe though.