Revenue-hungry Kansas will be owner of new casinos

Started by ulmont, September 01, 2009, 01:11:09 PM

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Darth Wagtaros

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Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 02, 2009, 07:17:10 AM
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My take is that states need to get spending under control. Government legislators and also citizens need to be realistic about what they want govt to be doing and spending. But since they fail at that and keep spending, too often inefficiently, states can not afford the govt spending and have to turn to new sources of revenue. Gambling just takes money that could be used elsewhere to help the economy, and people with better purchase than gambling,  and funnels the cash to the govt's coffers instead.

ulmont

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 02, 2009, 07:17:10 AM
I'm more interested in the ramifications of the state owning and running casinos.  We have the Feds owning whole industries, now I guess the states are getting into the game.

Well, the states already own their respective lotteries (and ban others from competing with them), so I suppose casinos are the next logical step.

Caliga

Quote from: ulmont on September 02, 2009, 08:06:32 AM
Well, the states already own their respective lotteries (and ban others from competing with them), so I suppose casinos are the next logical step.
It's a business that the government literally took over from the Mafia.  :)
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Quote from: ulmont on September 02, 2009, 08:06:32 AM
own their respective lotteries (and ban others from competing with them), so I suppose casinos are the next logical step.

Anything Texas can do to get money without raising taxes she shall do.

I look forward to craps tables being installed in all government buildings.
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Quote from: Faeelin on September 02, 2009, 07:44:53 AM
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I'd rather have them tax the stupid than the successful, to be honest.
It's a very ineffiient tax, and its collection has a devastating effect on the surrounding area.  The surest way to become a lifelong opponent of gambling is to visit Atlantic City, and walk a couple of blocks from the Boardwalk.

What makes you think Atlantic City wouldn't be a shithole without the casinos?


Maybe (probably) it would be, but at least it wouldn't be so tacky.
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Quote from: Ed Anger on September 02, 2009, 09:46:05 AM
Thankfully, we have no Indians anymore to get in our way.

Yeah we got rid of those hippy fucks to. *high five*
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Quote from: Valmy on September 02, 2009, 10:10:38 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 02, 2009, 09:46:05 AM
Thankfully, we have no Indians anymore to get in our way.

Yeah we got rid of those hippy fucks to. *high five*

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic.  :lol: :blush:
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DGuller

Quote from: Caliga on September 02, 2009, 07:10:21 AM
Quote from: DGuller on September 01, 2009, 05:13:30 PMIt's a very ineffiient tax, and its collection has a devastating effect on the surrounding area.  The surest way to become a lifelong opponent of gambling is to visit Atlantic City, and walk a couple of blocks from the Boardwalk.
Oversimplification.  Atlantic City isn't the way it is entirely due to gambling, but rather incredibly corrupt government and overdependence on gambling, which means when there are tourism downturns everyone is totally screwed.
But corruption and gambling themselves are connected.  When you have huge corporations making huge money in the locale, it is almost inevitable that those who make that huge money would make sure that the local government is not in position to threaten their interests.  Another reason for the quality of AC government is that the city itself has decayed so much that they're having the Detroit dynamic going on.

ulmont

Quote from: DGuller on September 02, 2009, 10:21:14 AM
But corruption and gambling themselves are connected.  When you have huge corporations making huge money in the locale, it is almost inevitable that those who make that huge money would make sure that the local government is not in position to threaten their interests.

Are you seriously saying that cities should discourage corporations from making money locally?

DGuller

Quote from: Faeelin on September 02, 2009, 07:44:53 AM
What makes you think Atlantic City wouldn't be a shithole without the casinos?
Obviously it's all hypothetical guessing, but without gambling, there would be less demand for drugs and prostitution in the area.  It would probably still be in perpetual decline, since decline was what invited gambling in the first place, but it would probably be a considerably less revolting kind of decline.

DGuller

Quote from: ulmont on September 02, 2009, 10:23:36 AM
Quote from: DGuller on September 02, 2009, 10:21:14 AM
But corruption and gambling themselves are connected.  When you have huge corporations making huge money in the locale, it is almost inevitable that those who make that huge money would make sure that the local government is not in position to threaten their interests.

Are you seriously saying that cities should discourage corporations from making money locally?
No?  :unsure:

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Quote from: Valmy on September 02, 2009, 08:13:24 AM
I look forward to craps tables being installed in all government buildings.

This would be awesome.  At the DMV, but don't feel like waiting in a line that long doing nothing but staring at the back of some guy's head?  Roll some dice until their lunch breaks end and the poor schmucks all have to go back to work.  I'm not a shitty degenerate gambler, I swear.