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What makes a person a particular gender?

Started by merithyn, August 19, 2009, 10:00:42 PM

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garbon

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Quote from: garbon on August 20, 2009, 12:58:18 AM
:x :x :x

I shower every day.  That's enough.  No one has ever complained.  And my wife is not exactly the sort who will tolerate this kind of thing  :P

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Monoriu on August 19, 2009, 10:46:08 PM
He who uses no skin products, wears no make-up, and tosses away accessories is a man.  She who does the opposite is a woman.

You'll get my apricot facial scrub when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.

merithyn

Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 19, 2009, 11:50:44 PM
an age old question. that is. I wish I knew. Seriously.  :(

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You are who you are, my friend, and that's good enough for me.

I once tried to explain to my mom, a nurse of 40 years, that there are more than just two genders. She looked at me as though I'd lost my mind and told me that I had no idea what I was talking about. Quite obviously, a person is what their genitalia make them, and that is that. Ah, but if only the world worked as easily and simply as my mom's mind.
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I wish, I wish he'd go away...

DisturbedPervert

Quote from: Monoriu on August 20, 2009, 01:04:14 AM
I shower every day.  That's enough.

It's not.  Especially in your climate.

Caliga

Quote from: Monoriu on August 20, 2009, 01:04:14 AM
Quote from: garbon on August 20, 2009, 12:58:18 AM
:x :x :x

I shower every day.  That's enough.  No one has ever complained.  And my wife is not exactly the sort who will tolerate this kind of thing  :P
Dudes... he's probably got no pit hair.
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Slargos

Quote from: merithyn on August 20, 2009, 04:59:36 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 19, 2009, 11:50:44 PM
an age old question. that is. I wish I knew. Seriously.  :(

:hug:

You are who you are, my friend, and that's good enough for me.

I once tried to explain to my mom, a nurse of 40 years, that there are more than just two genders. She looked at me as though I'd lost my mind and told me that I had no idea what I was talking about. Quite obviously, a person is what their genitalia make them, and that is that. Ah, but if only the world worked as easily and simply as my mom's mind.

:lol:

Don't ever change, Meri.

:hug:

merithyn

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Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Valmy

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Quote from: merithyn on August 20, 2009, 04:59:36 AM
I once tried to explain to my mom, a nurse of 40 years, that there are more than just two genders.

So should we have three genders in the Olympics?

Men, women, and other?

QuoteQuite obviously, a person is what their genitalia make them, and that is that. Ah, but if only the world worked as easily and simply as my mom's mind.

I guess it depends on whether you consider gender a social construct or as a division made due to slight human sexual dimorphism like in sports.

If you do not have the physical disadvantages of being a woman competing as one is cheating.
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DontSayBanana

Quote from: Valmy on August 20, 2009, 07:46:44 AM
Quote from: merithyn on August 20, 2009, 04:59:36 AM
I once tried to explain to my mom, a nurse of 40 years, that there are more than just two genders.

So should we have three genders in the Olympics?

Men, women, and other?

In theory, the problem is not the number of options, but viewing gender as a binary. The bulk of gender identity is in perception and mannerisms, though, so arguing about someone's perception or even their chromosomes, if there are no other outward indicators, isn't exactly germane to a sports oversight authority trying to maintain anatomical consistency. <_<
Experience bij!

Valmy

Quote from: DontSayBanana on August 20, 2009, 07:53:32 AM
In theory, the problem is not the number of options, but viewing gender as a binary. The bulk of gender identity is in perception and mannerisms, though, so arguing about someone's perception or even their chromosomes, if there are no other outward indicators, isn't exactly germane to a sports oversight authority trying to maintain anatomical consistency. <_<

Yep we do not split off female and male competitors because of their gender identity and mannerisms.
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Quote from: Valmy on August 20, 2009, 07:46:44 AM


So should we have three genders in the Olympics?

Men, women, and other?


Men, women and fruits.
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DisturbedPervert

Quote from: Valmy on August 20, 2009, 07:46:44 AM
So should we have three genders in the Olympics?

Men, women, and other?

Regular Olympics and The Hermaphrodite Games

DontSayBanana

Quote from: Valmy on August 20, 2009, 07:55:09 AM
Yep we do not split off female and male competitors because of their gender identity and mannerisms.

Sounds like people are drawing lines just to be pissy- "gender identification" is a soft science, but comparative anatomy is a pretty hard one.
Experience bij!

PDH

Why would you make a statement like that, Valmy?

Gender is the expression of sex-roles in culture. If the culture does not recognize more than two, why throw that canard out there about more than two genders in the olympics?  The point is, some cultures do have more than two genders, but at the present I do not see Western Culture at that stage.
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