Victoria 2

[HisMajestyBOB]

I think they should draw inspiration from period sources. Presented for your consideration:






For Grallon:

[Syt]

To be honest, Paradox seem less than enthusiastic about this game. I predict this will be a greater turd than HoI3 on release, and will receive less post release support.

[Josephus]

Yeah Syt...I was thinking the same thing. One of their bigshots even said right off the bat, that he didn't think Vickie Two was such a good idea.

[saskganesh]

For what it is worth, the lettow crowd is merrily appeased.

I suspect you'll be dissapointed.

I played the CSA a couple times in Vikkie and on the reload I grinded out a horrible victory. to win, I pretty much had to nerf my economy for 20 years.

anyhow, I got some territory and assured my independence. the problem was that as soon as my economy recovered --10 years later -- the Union Dowed me again. I did not have the stamina for a repeat.

OTOH, playing the Union was fairly enjoyable. Over multiple games, the CSA always lost to my superior manpower and economy. the only power that I really feared was the UK ... with their endless Indian Army hordes, who would land just about anywhere, depending on what the RN wanted to do. (France tried to emulate UK once by invading me solo ... I contained their army in New England then built transports and launched a counter invasion, landing in Brittany. Once Paris was taken -- this was 1880ish -- it was over.)

so unless they change some of the game's fundamentals, there will be a lot of upset confederate fanbois.

[saskganesh]

To be honest, Paradox seem less than enthusiastic about this game. I predict this will be a greater turd than HoI3 on release, and will receive less post release support.

possibly on release. but IMO Vikkie fans are the hardest of the hardcore among Pdox gamers, and they will quickly mod it into something reasonable.

just your time-tested Pdox development model at work.

[KRonn]

I hope Paradox does a good job on this game. Vicky is one of my favorites, probably due to the economic aspects. I'm happy with Vicky:Revs, but I'd want to play this one too.

[Ideologue]

Johan's comment:

We wanted to make a cover that shows something cool, and also show something that is both historical and showing what Paradox is all about, ie, changing history.

Well, one out of three ain't bad, I guess.

[Lettow77]

 Saskganesh, i've played Victoria alot. I know how the South goes.

Actually, that part isnt what bothers me. immigrants flock to new orleans and suchlike, and convert to yankee rather than dixie, so by 1920 african american and dixie are both largely assimilated and the USA is yankee from sea to shining sea. Even by 1860, there are majority yankee populations in Louisiana, Texas and the like. Just a tragedy.

Granted, the Confederacy was not much fun to play in victoria. Agriculture was given a short shrift.

[Razgovory]

For what it is worth, the lettow crowd is merrily appeased.

I suspect you'll be dissapointed.

I played the CSA a couple times in Vikkie and on the reload I grinded out a horrible victory. to win, I pretty much had to nerf my economy for 20 years.

Which is better then they did historically when they nerfed their economy for about 70 years.

[Razgovory]

like, the cover is the new map.

You mean when the Confederates invade India?

It will never happen in a Paradox game. The Confederates invading India requires the ability for the AI to launch a naval invasion, unless they cross from the Bering Straits, which isn't an impossibility for P'dox. But my point is anything requiring a naval invasion won't happen.

The British always seemed to always be launching naval invasion in Vicky.  The WWI scenario would normally end with the Millions of British soldiers overrunning North Germany while Germany can't get through Belgium and East Prussia is completely overrun.

[Valmy]

Why would the Confederates be fighting the British? They'd much more likely be on the same side.

Um...because they invaded India?  Pay attention please Tim.

[Neil]

Granted, the Confederacy was not much fun to play in victoria. Agriculture was given a short shrift.

Which is understandable, given how weak agricultural economies were next to industrial economies.

[Josephus]

The British always seemed to always be launching naval invasion in Vicky.  The WWI scenario would normally end with the Millions of British soldiers overrunning North Germany while Germany can't get through Belgium and East Prussia is completely overrun.

This is true. As the USA I never invade Canada for that reason.

[Zanza]

To be honest, Paradox seem less than enthusiastic about this game. I predict this will be a greater turd than HoI3 on release, and will receive less post release support.

I got that impression as well so far.

[Josephus]

No comments yet about the small screenshot of the new map?

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=444604