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Animals you consider too smart to eat

Started by Ideologue, August 13, 2009, 06:59:57 AM

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BuddhaRhubarb

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on August 14, 2009, 06:21:55 PM
Quote from: Korea on August 14, 2009, 05:26:45 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on August 13, 2009, 11:38:29 PM


Elephants, primates, and cetaceans, octopi and cuttlefish are thinking, feeling, even reasoning creatures with rich inner lifes, and it would be a moral wrong to take its life without justification or excuse.



How is nourishment not justification? It's not like you're going on a killing spree and taking the lives of animals for fun.
According to PETA you are doing just that. 

according to PETA Fake fur is murder. buncha tards. I'd rather hang out with a born again tard than a PETA Tard.
:p

Ideologue

Quote from: The Brain on August 14, 2009, 12:53:36 PM
I would never claim that your are morally wrong (I don't know what that is) but a couple of observations:

1. Ironically you may be overthinking food.

2. Are you sure you're not a woman?

:lol:

Well, you asked me to explain my logic, so I did.

Quote from: KoreaHow is nourishment not justification? It's not like you're going on a killing spree and taking the lives of animals for fun.

Fine, the next time you're feeling peckish, we'll butcher the cats instead of buying food.  It's about alternatives--since food of unambigious moral content is readily available in all the varieties we require to live and function, there is no justification or excuse for you to eat my liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.
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Korea

 :rolleyes:
Okay, obviously you weren't paying attention to the beginning of the thread. I would not eat a cat or dog because of cultural reasons. So our cats are fine. I am talking about cows and pigs which are bred for food. Personally I wouldn't eat squid or octopi because I think they have a weird texture.

If you are not gonna eat mammals for personal reasons then you should't eat chicken either. They have feelings too.
I want my mother fucking points!

Razgovory

Quote from: Korea on August 16, 2009, 07:16:30 AM
:rolleyes:
Okay, obviously you weren't paying attention to the beginning of the thread. I would not eat a cat or dog because of cultural reasons. So our cats are fine. I am talking about cows and pigs which are bred for food. Personally I wouldn't eat squid or octopi because I think they have a weird texture.

If you are not gonna eat mammals for personal reasons then you should't eat chicken either. They have feelings too.

Tell Ide to stop being a Pussy.  Your house already has two.  You don't need more.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Neil on August 14, 2009, 06:10:02 PM
At any rate, Ide is overthinking matters.  When it comes to eating, there is no such thing as morality.  Just as the lion doesn't care about how intelligent the elephant is when it kills and eats it, so should we not.  To do anything else is to open the road to PETA thinking.
Lions can't kill an Elephant.
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Neil

Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 16, 2009, 07:53:16 AM
Quote from: Neil on August 14, 2009, 06:10:02 PM
At any rate, Ide is overthinking matters.  When it comes to eating, there is no such thing as morality.  Just as the lion doesn't care about how intelligent the elephant is when it kills and eats it, so should we not.  To do anything else is to open the road to PETA thinking.
Lions can't kill an Elephant.
This is, of course, incorrect.  I've seen it happen.
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Quote from: Neil on August 16, 2009, 08:04:45 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 16, 2009, 07:53:16 AM
Quote from: Neil on August 14, 2009, 06:10:02 PM
At any rate, Ide is overthinking matters.  When it comes to eating, there is no such thing as morality.  Just as the lion doesn't care about how intelligent the elephant is when it kills and eats it, so should we not.  To do anything else is to open the road to PETA thinking.
Lions can't kill an Elephant.
This is, of course, incorrect.  I've seen it happen.

Maybe a baby, but even that's tough for them, they can't crush the windpipe which is their main way to kill.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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1 Karma Chameleon point

Neil

Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 16, 2009, 08:18:00 AM
Quote from: Neil on August 16, 2009, 08:04:45 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 16, 2009, 07:53:16 AM
Quote from: Neil on August 14, 2009, 06:10:02 PM
At any rate, Ide is overthinking matters.  When it comes to eating, there is no such thing as morality.  Just as the lion doesn't care about how intelligent the elephant is when it kills and eats it, so should we not.  To do anything else is to open the road to PETA thinking.
Lions can't kill an Elephant.
This is, of course, incorrect.  I've seen it happen.

Maybe a baby, but even that's tough for them, they can't crush the windpipe which is their main way to kill.
The one I saw killed was a young adult.  Stop trying to convince me it can't be done.  Your conviction is nothing against my own senses.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Neil on August 16, 2009, 08:21:18 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 16, 2009, 08:18:00 AM
Quote from: Neil on August 16, 2009, 08:04:45 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 16, 2009, 07:53:16 AM
Quote from: Neil on August 14, 2009, 06:10:02 PM
At any rate, Ide is overthinking matters.  When it comes to eating, there is no such thing as morality.  Just as the lion doesn't care about how intelligent the elephant is when it kills and eats it, so should we not.  To do anything else is to open the road to PETA thinking.
Lions can't kill an Elephant.
This is, of course, incorrect.  I've seen it happen.

Maybe a baby, but even that's tough for them, they can't crush the windpipe which is their main way to kill.
The one I saw killed was a young adult. 
How? :yeahright:
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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1 Karma Chameleon point

Neil

Jumped on it in a group of about 12-15 at night.  Exhausted it.  Bled it to death.  It tried to run, but they tore and snapped at it's hindquarters while it was on the run.

Provided that it isn't too big, a lone elephant can be taken by a pride.
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Korea

Quote from: Razgovory on August 16, 2009, 07:23:12 AM
Quote from: Korea on August 16, 2009, 07:16:30 AM
:rolleyes:
Okay, obviously you weren't paying attention to the beginning of the thread. I would not eat a cat or dog because of cultural reasons. So our cats are fine. I am talking about cows and pigs which are bred for food. Personally I wouldn't eat squid or octopi because I think they have a weird texture.

If you are not gonna eat mammals for personal reasons then you should't eat chicken either. They have feelings too.

Tell Ide to stop being a Pussy.  Your house already has two.  You don't need more.

:lol:


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:ph34r:
I want my mother fucking points!

HVC

Quote from: Korea on August 16, 2009, 01:09:56 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 16, 2009, 07:23:12 AM
Quote from: Korea on August 16, 2009, 07:16:30 AM
:rolleyes:
Okay, obviously you weren't paying attention to the beginning of the thread. I would not eat a cat or dog because of cultural reasons. So our cats are fine. I am talking about cows and pigs which are bred for food. Personally I wouldn't eat squid or octopi because I think they have a weird texture.

If you are not gonna eat mammals for personal reasons then you should't eat chicken either. They have feelings too.

Tell Ide to stop being a Pussy.  Your house already has two.  You don't need more.

:lol:


4

:ph34r:
Four pussies? You've missed your call as a porn star :P
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Quote from: Neil on August 16, 2009, 08:41:23 AM
Jumped on it in a group of about 12-15 at night.  Exhausted it.  Bled it to death.  It tried to run, but they tore and snapped at it's hindquarters while it was on the run.

Provided that it isn't too big, a lone elephant can be taken by a pride.

On BBC Documentary Planet Earth Episode about the Savana. they have a group of about 8 lions jumping an Elephant. the Extra on the dvd explains how they filmed it.
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