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Started by Caliga, August 06, 2009, 11:12:34 AM

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Drakken

Quote from: Malthus on August 07, 2009, 09:46:39 AM
Quote from: Drakken on August 07, 2009, 09:37:52 AM
Quote from: Caliga on August 07, 2009, 09:13:56 AM
Quote from: Valmy on August 07, 2009, 09:10:50 AM
This guy sounds like he made the classic blunder: he started approaching really hot women and wondered why they rejected him.  Um...if you can't play the game well you need to start out in the minors.
:yes:

A guy with his level of difficulty needed to start with middle aged fat, ugly chicks with 3 kids.  Get some confidence, maybe learn to eat a little pussy, and then WHAM BAM THANK YOU MA'AM CYA WOULDN'T WANNA BE YA. :)

Bingo.

However, approaching hot women is a sure way to lose one's approach anxiety, because AFCs tend to believe that the hottier the woman is, the more special she is, and that she is to be treated differently than other women, which is a big mistake. Hot women are women first, and thus have the same needs (and triggers) as fugly SuBo-lookalike birds.

In fact, since hot women are used to be treated like queens and asskissing by other guys, they are rather easy to challenge.  :cool:

If you can take rejection by them, the fear goes way quickly, which is a huge first step for people who are not at ease with approaching women.

Heh I can just imagine the "homework".

'Okay, class, today's assignment is to get rejected by 10 good looking women tonight. By the end of the week I expect every member of the class to have 50 rejections ..."

Thing is, if you stuck with that, and posed the question with any sort of decency (and weren't grotesque looking/smelling), you'd almost certainly be laid by the end of the week.

The mathematical theory of dating.  ;)

It's much more than that. It's so easy getting rejected by women, there is no challenge into that. You'd learn nothing even if you got rejected by 100 women in one night (makes a decent challenge between friends, though).

Remember who the target audience is, guys who have NO CLUE on how to be confident approaching women and talk to them: How to approach a woman without putting pressure on her, how to talk to her, how to control your body language, how to tease and flirt, and so on. For them it takes practice.

Drakken

Quote from: Valmy on August 07, 2009, 09:48:55 AM
Quote from: Drakken on August 07, 2009, 09:45:52 AM
Yeah sure, I am certainly like that guy, I have a girlfriend and I get laid.

I mean the dude who thinks that girls really do hate "nice guys" when actually they just don't really like needy creepy guys.

"Nice guys" does colloquially mean the latter. When a girl says that a man is "a nice guy", everyone knows it is a underhanded compliment. 

Of course women want guys who will treat them nice, they are not masochist (well, not all of them). But they want a confident, assertive man.

That is why the acronym "AFC" was invented, to get rid of any association between "being nice" and "being a doormat".

Valmy

Quote from: Drakken on August 07, 2009, 09:51:48 AM
how to tease and flirt

That is really all ya got to do.  You do not even have to be very good at it really.

Whenever I would be asked a question I would always have a funny response at least once...it really drove them nuts because they could never really tell when I was being serious or when I was totally full of shit.
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Valmy

Quote from: Drakken on August 07, 2009, 09:53:37 AM
"Nice guys" does colloquially mean the latter.

Not necessarily.  The message alot of men get is that being nice in itself is bad and the answer is to be an ass.
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Caliga

I found that staring at their boobs and saying "nice tits" 5-10 times an hour worked pretty well.
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Drakken

Quote from: Valmy on August 07, 2009, 09:54:10 AM
Quote from: Drakken on August 07, 2009, 09:51:48 AM
how to tease and flirt

That is really all ya got to do.  You do not even have to be very good at it really.

Whenever I would be asked a question I would always have a funny response at least once...it really drove them nuts because they could never really tell when I was being serious or when I was totally full of shit.

But the thing is, many guys don't know that. Good that there are people willing to teach them if it can help them in their lovelife, neh?

Ed Anger

Quote from: Caliga on August 07, 2009, 09:56:07 AM
I found that staring at their boobs and saying "nice tits" 5-10 times an hour worked pretty well.

Jefe, you do not understand women. You cannot force open the petals of a flower. When the flower is ready, it opens itself up to you.
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Valmy

Quote from: Caliga on August 07, 2009, 09:56:07 AM
I found that staring at their boobs and saying "nice tits" 5-10 times an hour worked pretty well.

Seriously though.  If they are not good enough sports for you to say stuff like that screw em.

I always hated the 'too cool for school' girls who would get all pissy at the least bit of hanky panky (verbally even).
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Drakken

Quote from: Valmy on August 07, 2009, 09:55:32 AM
Quote from: Drakken on August 07, 2009, 09:53:37 AM
"Nice guys" does colloquially mean the latter.

Not necessarily.  The message alot of men get is that being nice in itself is bad and the answer is to be an ass.

Which, if they'd care to learn from people who actually know their shit, they'd see how wrong this answer is.

Caliga

Quote from: Valmy on August 07, 2009, 09:57:47 AMSeriously though.  If they are not good enough sports for you to say stuff like that screw em.

I always hated the 'too cool for school' girls who would get all pissy at the least bit of hanky panky (verbally even).
Yeah.  EJECT EJECT
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Malthus

Quote from: Drakken on August 07, 2009, 09:51:48 AM
It's much more than that. It's so easy getting rejected by women, there is no challenge into that. You'd learn nothing even if you got rejected by 100 women in one night (makes a decent challenge between friends, though).

Remember who the target audience is, guys who have NO CLUE on how to be confident approaching women and talk to them: How to approach a woman without putting pressure on her, how to talk to her, how to control your body language, how to tease and flirt, and so on. For them it takes practice.

Well, I guess I was never one of those guys. For most guys (or at least for me), the big, scary barrier is the fear of rejection, exacerbated by all of the societal paranoia about male violence/offensiveness. Get over that and you are more or less home free (at least, to get women more or less as hot as yourself). Thus, forcing yourself to get over rejection would be a useful exercise.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Malthus on August 07, 2009, 09:46:39 AM
Quote from: Drakken on August 07, 2009, 09:37:52 AM
Quote from: Caliga on August 07, 2009, 09:13:56 AM
Quote from: Valmy on August 07, 2009, 09:10:50 AM
This guy sounds like he made the classic blunder: he started approaching really hot women and wondered why they rejected him.  Um...if you can't play the game well you need to start out in the minors.
:yes:

A guy with his level of difficulty needed to start with middle aged fat, ugly chicks with 3 kids.  Get some confidence, maybe learn to eat a little pussy, and then WHAM BAM THANK YOU MA'AM CYA WOULDN'T WANNA BE YA. :)

Bingo.

However, approaching hot women is a sure way to lose one's approach anxiety, because AFCs tend to believe that the hottier the woman is, the more special she is, and that she is to be treated differently than other women, which is a big mistake. Hot women are women first, and thus have the same needs (and triggers) as fugly SuBo-lookalike birds.

In fact, since hot women are used to be treated like queens and asskissing by other guys, they are rather easy to challenge.  :cool:

If you can take rejection by them, the fear goes way quickly, which is a huge first step for people who are not at ease with approaching women.

Heh I can just imagine the "homework".

'Okay, class, today's assignment is to get rejected by 10 good looking women tonight. By the end of the week I expect every member of the class to have 50 rejections ..."

Thing is, if you stuck with that, and posed the question with any sort of decency (and weren't grotesque looking/smelling), you'd almost certainly be laid by the end of the week.

The mathematical theory of dating.  ;)
It's just like sales, I was told that as long as I spoke to 30 perspective costumers in a day I'd be sure to make at least one sale no matter how clueless my approach was.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Valmy

Quote from: Malthus on August 07, 2009, 10:05:49 AM
exacerbated by all of the societal paranoia about male violence/offensiveness.

This one was a HUGE hang up for me.  I had enormous guilt about having the irrepresible urge to bang chicks hard all day and night.  I remember my first week at college there was this big presentation about rape and how awful we men are.  Thanks for destroying my college experience assholes.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Caliga

Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 07, 2009, 10:09:24 AMIt's just like sales, I was told that as long as I spoke to 30 perspective costumers in a day I'd be sure to make at least one sale no matter how clueless my approach was.
:yes:

It *is* sales.  You're selling yourself to a potential client. :)

btw I went through sales training and heard the exact same thing.
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Caliga

Quote from: Valmy on August 07, 2009, 10:11:36 AMThis one was a HUGE hang up for me.  I had enormous guilt about having the irrepresible urge to bang chicks hard all day and night.  I remember my first week at college there was this big presentation about rape and how awful we men are.  Thanks for destroying my college experience assholes.
"Hot, Sexy, and Safer"? :bleeding:
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