A Game of Thrones on HBO - I guess this is really going to happen.

Started by Berkut, July 31, 2009, 02:22:55 PM

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Martin posted some covers from a French release of his series.

Much, much, MUCH better than any of the covers I have seen in the States.



Castle Black? and the Wall.



Tyrion in Kings Landing.
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Quote from: DisturbedPervert on February 23, 2010, 10:47:54 AM
Quote from: The Brain on February 23, 2010, 10:37:46 AM
I just finished the books. I love them.

Hope you love decade long cliffhangers too

I don't have a problem with the next book missing. There's so many ends to tie up anyway I doubt he'll manage.
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Berkut

Quote from: DisturbedPervert on February 23, 2010, 10:47:54 AM
Quote from: The Brain on February 23, 2010, 10:37:46 AM
I just finished the books. I love them.

Hope you love decade long cliffhangers too

I was chatting with someone about this the other day, and I realized something.

I don't really care about the long waits.

Or rather, I do care, but the books are so fucking good, I don't in any way regret having read them. In fact, the long waits, while annoying, have allowed me to digest the story in a way that I have probably never done for any books before. I recognize that this is apologism to some extent - I love the books enough that I am willing to find excuses for their author, but at the same time...it's not like I would be better off for them not having been written, and me for not having read them several times now.

I am halfway through book four for the third time, and I do not regret a moment I have spent reading them, talking about them, reading about them, or bullshitting on Languish about them. So hey - from that perspective, I have probably gotten more enjoyment out of this series than anything I have ever read, by a long shot.
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Quote from: Berkut on February 23, 2010, 11:03:57 AM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on February 23, 2010, 10:47:54 AM
Quote from: The Brain on February 23, 2010, 10:37:46 AM
I just finished the books. I love them.

Hope you love decade long cliffhangers too

I was chatting with someone about this the other day, and I realized something.

I don't really care about the long waits.

Or rather, I do care, but the books are so fucking good, I don't in any way regret having read them. In fact, the long waits, while annoying, have allowed me to digest the story in a way that I have probably never done for any books before. I recognize that this is apologism to some extent - I love the books enough that I am willing to find excuses for their author, but at the same time...it's not like I would be better off for them not having been written, and me for not having read them several times now.

I am halfway through book four for the third time, and I do not regret a moment I have spent reading them, talking about them, reading about them, or bullshitting on Languish about them. So hey - from that perspective, I have probably gotten more enjoyment out of this series than anything I have ever read, by a long shot.

good point

Barrister

Martin can take as long as he wants - as long as he manages to finish the series before he dies.

Unfortunately I don't think he will.
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There's one thing about the books I don't get though. Why did he make it a LOTR cross-over? And FWIW I pictured Frodo's father a LOT different from this.
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Quote from: Barrister on February 23, 2010, 12:11:05 PM
Martin can take as long as he wants - as long as he manages to finish the series before he dies.

Unfortunately I don't think he will.
My theory is that he really doesn't care anymore. 
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Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on February 23, 2010, 02:57:36 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 23, 2010, 12:11:05 PM
Martin can take as long as he wants - as long as he manages to finish the series before he dies.

Unfortunately I don't think he will.
My theory is that he really doesn't care anymore.
I sure don't.  If he finishes the series, i will start over and read the thing.  If he doesn't, I won't.  I think he is a better writer than Jordan was, but I think Jordan honestly knew where he was going, and I am pretty sure Martin has never had a clue.

I don't think the books are worth spending more time on absent an actual story.  I have plenty of books in the queue that look just as well-written and a lot more compelling plot-wise.
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Quote from: grumbler on February 23, 2010, 03:15:38 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on February 23, 2010, 02:57:36 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 23, 2010, 12:11:05 PM
Martin can take as long as he wants - as long as he manages to finish the series before he dies.

Unfortunately I don't think he will.
My theory is that he really doesn't care anymore.
I sure don't.  If he finishes the series, i will start over and read the thing.  If he doesn't, I won't.  I think he is a better writer than Jordan was, but I think Jordan honestly knew where he was going, and I am pretty sure Martin has never had a clue.

I don't think the books are worth spending more time on absent an actual story.  I have plenty of books in the queue that look just as well-written and a lot more compelling plot-wise.
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And Jordan claimed from the start to know how he wanted to end the series.  His problem was getting there. 
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Quote from: Maximus on February 23, 2010, 03:44:38 PM
Quote from: grumbler on February 23, 2010, 03:15:38 PM
I think Jordan honestly knew where he was going,
I've never gotten that impression.
The problem is that about halfway through book 2, Jordan figured out that his series could very well have ended with book 3, and he needed to pad.  So he did.
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Quote from: Maximus on February 23, 2010, 03:44:38 PM
Quote from: grumbler on February 23, 2010, 03:15:38 PM
I think Jordan honestly knew where he was going,
I've never gotten that impression.

I just kept getting the impression that he got lost on segue after segue along with him suddenly finding new characters interesting and inserting them into the story. So he kept getting lost from the red thread of the story along with starting to tell new stories again and again.

I think he was afraid of finishing the series.
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Quote from: Scipio on February 23, 2010, 11:14:57 PM
Quote from: Maximus on February 23, 2010, 03:44:38 PM
Quote from: grumbler on February 23, 2010, 03:15:38 PM
I think Jordan honestly knew where he was going,
I've never gotten that impression.
The problem is that about halfway through book 2, Jordan figured out that his series could very well have ended with book 3, and he needed to pad.  So he did.
There's no fucking way it could have ended in 3 books.
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