US Exit from NATO?

[Grey Fox]

Trump is not forever. Tusk knows this and so far is apt at delaying.

We always act like a US administration is permanent. It really is not. How far are we from the Obama years of hope?

Trump saying he won't act on article 5 is only a possibility for 3 more years.

[Norgy]

Does the president know that most countries will drop the rather poor JSF then? He really is great at keeping jobs in the US, isn't he? 

[crazy canuck]

Trump is not forever. Tusk knows this and so far is apt at delaying.

We always act like a US administration is permanent. It really is not. How far are we from the Obama years of hope?

Trump saying he won't act on article 5 is only a possibility for 3 more years.

Trump is not  forever, certainly.  But the Americans who made him possible are not going anywhere.  Trump is the symptom, not the disease.

[Grey Fox]

Trump is not forever. Tusk knows this and so far is apt at delaying.

We always act like a US administration is permanent. It really is not. How far are we from the Obama years of hope?

Trump saying he won't act on article 5 is only a possibility for 3 more years.

Trump is not  forever, certainly.  But the Americans who made him possible are not going anywhere.  Trump is the symptom, not the disease.

Yes but that's not the same thing, especially in foreign diplomacy. They'll elect some crazy racist Christian again but he won't be this dumb.

[Sophie Scholl]

Yes but that's not the same thing, especially in foreign diplomacy. They'll elect some crazy racist Christian again but he won't be this dumb.

...why must you tempt fate like this? 

[Jacob]

Trump may not last that long, but the anti-democracy clique of oligarchs are going to be around after he's no longer president.

[Baron von Schtinkenbutt]

Unfortunately, it seems anti-democracy is gaining steam to various degrees worldwide.  In many places it seems like things have moved on to arguing over whose authoritarian or semi-authoritarian ideas should take over.

[Grey Fox]

We let the billionaire class rule and now suffer from stagnation. I can see how China's system can be enticing.

[Duque de Bragança]

They are determined to safeguard the freedom, common heritage and civilisation of their peoples, founded on the principles of democracy, individual liberty and the rule of law. They seek to promote stability and well-being in the North Atlantic area.

I don't see how the US fits into this.

Also slightly mad for an organisation that included Salazar's Portugal, various military coup regimes in Turkey and the Colonels' Greece. Was it maybe added later or amended?

Nope. That was the original preamble to the original treaty in 1949. Though Turkey and Greece were not signatories yet.

Portugal was a founding member as a matter of fact, and Salazar played his cards right during WWII, unlike, say, Franco, despite the opportunism of the latter.

[Legbiter]

Nordics can go back to stationing tripwire forces in Greenland.

[Grey Fox]

The Billionaires really want their Ice Box company town.

[crazy canuck]

So not Cuba but Greenland is the next target?

[Duque de Bragança]

So not Cuba but Greenland is the next target?

Maybe wait for the summer in Greenland? 
Cuba has less climate constraints.

[viper37]

Cuba has less climate constraints.

True.  But there's all kind of tropical diseases to be caught in these climates.

I know modern medicines does wonders, with vaccines and all, but that's not in the current philosophy of this MAHA movement at the head of the US currently.  Drinking raw milk and running in the rain ain't gonna save you from every fever.

[Valmy]

Trump is not forever. Tusk knows this and so far is apt at delaying.

We always act like a US administration is permanent. It really is not. How far are we from the Obama years of hope?

Trump saying he won't act on article 5 is only a possibility for 3 more years.

Trump is not  forever, certainly.  But the Americans who made him possible are not going anywhere.  Trump is the symptom, not the disease.

Yep.