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Started by Jacob, February 16, 2025, 02:00:06 PM

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Quote from: Zanza on March 21, 2026, 01:58:39 AMThe United States has temporarily lifted sanctions on selling oil from ... Iran.  :lol:

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Quote from: Zanza on March 21, 2026, 01:58:39 AMThe United States has temporarily lifted sanctions on selling oil from ... Iran.  :lol:

As absurd as it is, it signals that Trump is finally beginning to comprehend that market pricing can't be directed by tweet. The only way to get pricing down short term is increase short term supplies to the world, whatever the source.
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At least until his next nap

viper37

Canada, UK, France, Germany are willing to participate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz and if NATO is asked to help with the defense of Gulf States, it will listen.
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Valmy

Quote from: viper37 on March 21, 2026, 02:06:01 PMCanada, UK, France, Germany are willing to participate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz and if NATO is asked to help with the defense of Gulf States, it will listen.

Oh what a bunch of obedient little vassal states.

Bend over morons, you guys are about to get fucked.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

mongers

I can see Iran attempting to launching missiles at RAF Fairford within the next few days.
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The statement is a masterpiece of careful legalistic hedging:

QuoteWe express our readiness to contribute to appropriate efforts to ensure safe passage through the Strait. We welcome the commitment of nations who are engaging in preparatory planning.

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mongers

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 21, 2026, 02:24:46 PMThe statement is a masterpiece of careful legalistic hedging:

QuoteWe express our readiness to contribute to appropriate efforts to ensure safe passage through the Strait. We welcome the commitment of nations who are engaging in preparatory planning.



So more like a response in a dispute about gardening boundaries involving Lylandii trees?
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viper37

Quote from: Valmy on March 21, 2026, 02:12:02 PM
Quote from: viper37 on March 21, 2026, 02:06:01 PMCanada, UK, France, Germany are willing to participate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz and if NATO is asked to help with the defense of Gulf States, it will listen.

Oh what a bunch of obedient little vassal states.

Bend over morons, you guys are about to get fucked.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/canada-joint-statement-strait-hormuz-9.7135150

Got the link for you.

Doesn't say how, more diplomacy than warships.

But yeah, we're about to get fucked if we step in this.

Could we really stay out of this with oil, gaz, fertilizer, helium out of commission for years and the US unable to do jack shit while Russia and China are having a field day though?

Even Ukraine is feeling oblidged to help.

FFS.  What a shit show this is.
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viper37

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 21, 2026, 02:24:46 PMThe statement is a masterpiece of careful legalistic hedging:

QuoteWe express our readiness to contribute to appropriate efforts to ensure safe passage through the Strait. We welcome the commitment of nations who are engaging in preparatory planning.


:showoff:  Lawyers of the world, UNITE!
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If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

mongers

Quote from: Valmy on March 21, 2026, 02:12:02 PM
Quote from: viper37 on March 21, 2026, 02:06:01 PMCanada, UK, France, Germany are willing to participate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz and if NATO is asked to help with the defense of Gulf States, it will listen.

Oh what a bunch of obedient little vassal states.

Bend over morons, you guys are about to get fucked.

And the logic of that position is the rest of the world should hope trump/America gets bogged down in a war in the gulf for a long time, so that an emboldened trump can't go on to eventually attack some of the US's allies?
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Valmy

Quote from: mongers on March 21, 2026, 03:04:17 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 21, 2026, 02:12:02 PM
Quote from: viper37 on March 21, 2026, 02:06:01 PMCanada, UK, France, Germany are willing to participate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz and if NATO is asked to help with the defense of Gulf States, it will listen.

Oh what a bunch of obedient little vassal states.

Bend over morons, you guys are about to get fucked.

And the logic of that position is the rest of the world should hope trump/America gets bogged down in a war in the gulf for a long time, so that an emboldened trump can't go on to eventually attack some of the US's allies?

The logic is that assisting Trump will get you fucked. He betrays everybody, especially his friends. Once he finally takes his toys and goes home, then you can solve the problem.

So long as he has his hands on it, there is nothing anybody can do really. Except just ally with the Chinese I guess.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Legbiter



And then Iran retaliates by torching the Gulf oil industry.
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Zoupa

Quote from: PJL on March 20, 2026, 08:37:51 AMSomething that has really surprised me about this whole conflict is that there have been no large-scale protests in the West about the whole thing. Certainly, no mention of it in the MSM, but even on my social media feeds, very little has been mentioned re the whole situation.

I don't understand why you think "the West" should care about this exactly.

Why would Italians protest or care about Iran-US conflict?

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Zoupa on March 21, 2026, 07:57:04 PM
Quote from: PJL on March 20, 2026, 08:37:51 AMSomething that has really surprised me about this whole conflict is that there have been no large-scale protests in the West about the whole thing. Certainly, no mention of it in the MSM, but even on my social media feeds, very little has been mentioned re the whole situation.

I don't understand why you think "the West" should care about this exactly.

Why would Italians protest or care about Iran-US conflict?
There were lots protests about the Iraq war and rising gas prices will hurt the Italian economy
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