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Started by Jacob, February 16, 2025, 02:00:06 PM

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Sheilbh

The ongoing Pakistani blowback from Afghanistan is really interesting too.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Sheilbh on Today at 07:55:48 AMThe ongoing Pakistani blowback from Afghanistan is really interesting too.
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jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
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The Minsky Moment

Whether or not assassination of foreign leaders is a wise policy or not, it is a significant and consequential one.  It's not a great sign that the neither the President nor any high-ranking American official has made a live national address.  It only reinforces the sense that the administration does not want to or cannot give a rational explanation for the policy, either it to its own constituency, to America as  a whole, or the rest of the world which is watching this.

I suppose it's possible there is some "Secret Plan" unfolding behind the scenes, but it certainly seems like this just a more elaborate and expensive Venezuela Part 2. American foreign policy is devolving to the South Park underpants gnomes stage.
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grumbler

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Quote from: HVC on Today at 01:02:35 AMI have to imagine said fatass travels with radio scramblers in tow

Fiberoptic drones are currently used by both sides in the Ukraine war which you can't scramble. Russia could sell/lose a few off a truck.

The Ukrainians have had multiple attacks foiled by radio jammers. And a fiber-optic drone has a very short range. You can bet that the Secret Service has plans to counter such an attack.
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Richard Hakluyt

I think Witkoff may have revealed more than he intended when he said that Trump was curious about why Iran has not capitulated. They are supposed to give in, but so far they haven't and it seems that the straits of Hormuz are now effectively closed. That is 20m barrels of oil a day or thereabouts. What is the Great Helmsman and Light of the USA going to do about that?

Legbiter

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The Iranian strategy given what's happened today seems to be just going through the most highly rated hotels in the Gulf on Tripadvisor and then blowing them up via shaheds. Same with airports. And then wait for the Gulf Arabs to put pressure on the US.

*edit* Also fired ballistic missiles toward Cyprus (shot down by the Brits) and attacks by shaheds on the French naval base at Abu Dhabi.
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crazy canuck

Active US servicemen have now died.

I hope that all the people who voted for Trump and I hope that he would not start any more wars turn against him.
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Duque de Bragança

Quote from: Legbiter on Today at 12:27:49 PMThe Iranian strategy given what's happened today seems to be just going through the most highly rated hotels in the Gulf on Tripadvisor and then blowing them up via shaheds. Same with airports. And then wait for the Gulf Arabs to put pressure on the US.

Some people over here are making fun, more like Schadenfreude, of dumb Persian Gulf-based Western influencers discovering the instability of the Middle East. 

Quote*edit* Also fired ballistic missiles toward Cyprus (shot down by the Brits) and attacks by shaheds on the French naval base at Abu Dhabi.

Cyprus? Quite optimistic. Striking by mistake Turkish-occupied Northern Cyprus would be ironic.

Syt

At this rate I expect Trump to drop a tactical nuke on Kim Jong Un's head by summer.
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Valmy

Quote from: Zanza on Today at 04:56:36 AMDecapitation of the evil Iranian regime is great. Let's hope that something good arises from that.

I don't know man. They keep acting like if we just kill off a few more guys in charge everything will be fine.

We have been doing that for decades and everything has yet to be fine. But we'll see. Maybe these were the last few guys who needed killing.
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Richard Hakluyt

I don't think there is any shortage of militant ayatollahs. Any regime change will require parts or most of the Revolutionary guard to throw in the towel; we have recently witnessed their brutality and willingness to kill thousands to keep the Islamic Republic going....if they do give up then their own lives will be on the line  :hmm:

HVC

Quote from: Valmy on Today at 01:53:47 PM
Quote from: Zanza on Today at 04:56:36 AMDecapitation of the evil Iranian regime is great. Let's hope that something good arises from that.

I don't know man. They keep acting like if we just kill off a few more guys in charge everything will be fine.

We have been doing that for decades and everything has yet to be fine. But we'll see. Maybe these were the last few guys who needed killing.

If you keep killing the bad replacements eventually a good one will show up, right? Like skimming the fat off the top of a pot. That's how politics works, isn't it :unsure:
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Tonitrus

I am sure we will eventually skim off enough until we find some seemingly pliant IRGC/ayatollah figurehead who will lead just-as-before oppressive regime that pays sufficient lip service to Trump while at the same time plotting revenge for our future leaders to have to deal with.

Or they can go to Russia...the more militant propagandists there have already invited the IRGC to come fight in Ukraine.  :P