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Started by Jacob, May 29, 2024, 03:19:06 PM

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Admiral Yi

Quote from: garbon on June 09, 2024, 07:46:12 AMHa, the term 'Karen' has arisen specifically out of recognition that white, cisgender complaints were receiving disproportionate deference.

So strange.  I've watched thousands of Karen videos and almost all of them end up with the Karen handcuffed in the back of a squad car.  I've seen plenty in which they *demand* disporportionate deference because they're white, rich, blond, Christian, etc. but never once have I seen them receiving it.

Josquius

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 09, 2024, 05:07:23 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 09, 2024, 07:46:12 AMHa, the term 'Karen' has arisen specifically out of recognition that white, cisgender complaints were receiving disproportionate deference.

So strange.  I've watched thousands of Karen videos and almost all of them end up with the Karen handcuffed in the back of a squad car.  I've seen plenty in which they *demand* disporportionate deference because they're white, rich, blond, Christian, etc. but never once have I seen them receiving it.

Even in the flesh?
Those events don't get widely shared as Karen's getting hit by karma I imagine.
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garbon

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 09, 2024, 05:07:23 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 09, 2024, 07:46:12 AMHa, the term 'Karen' has arisen specifically out of recognition that white, cisgender complaints were receiving disproportionate deference.

So strange.  I've watched thousands of Karen videos and almost all of them end up with the Karen handcuffed in the back of a squad car.  I've seen plenty in which they *demand* disporportionate deference because they're white, rich, blond, Christian, etc. but never once have I seen them receiving it.

TMI, dude, TMI.:shutup:
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Josquius on June 09, 2024, 05:41:34 PMEven in the flesh?
Those events don't get widely shared as Karen's getting hit by karma I imagine.

Even in the flesh what?

Why do you imagine that the other kind of Karen doesn't get as widely shared?

Josquius

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 09, 2024, 05:58:32 PM
Quote from: Josquius on June 09, 2024, 05:41:34 PMEven in the flesh?
Those events don't get widely shared as Karen's getting hit by karma I imagine.

Even in the flesh what?

Why do you imagine that the other kind of Karen doesn't get as widely shared?
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You haven't encountered these Karen attitudes in reality?

The Karen winning and getting her way won't be shared as it's the everyday norm and is not entertaining so much as depressing.
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grumbler

Quote from: chipwich on June 09, 2024, 07:04:19 AMThe Toroto Sun didn't dupe anyone lackwit. Pinknews lied by claiming the that Sun claimed that the charity "replaced the word "cervix". The Sun did not do so.

You quote what you claim is Pinknews, but their article never uses the phrase you lied and claimed they did.

QuoteNO medical professional should EVER use the word "front hole" to describe a cervix under any conditions. It is a pornified mockery of human anatomy.

You will understand, I hope, if I suggest to you that you are in no position to demand that medical professionals use only terms you approve of.

QuoteThe fact that you have Garbon and Pinknews marching to the defense of "front hole" shows that homosexuals disrespect women's bodies and gay liberation was a mistake.

The fact that you are lying about all of this shows that the mods not deleting all of your lying posts was a mistake.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Josquius on June 10, 2024, 01:08:50 AMYou haven't encountered these Karen attitudes in reality?

The Karen winning and getting her way won't be shared as it's the everyday norm and is not entertaining so much as depressing.

Maybe once or twice when I was waiting tables.

Presumably you encounter it on an everyday basis?

Josquius

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 10, 2024, 10:37:01 AM
Quote from: Josquius on June 10, 2024, 01:08:50 AMYou haven't encountered these Karen attitudes in reality?

The Karen winning and getting her way won't be shared as it's the everyday norm and is not entertaining so much as depressing.

Maybe once or twice when I was waiting tables.

Presumably you encounter it on an everyday basis?
Not everyday. Especially since I don't leave the house. But occasionally yes, very much so in some past jobs.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Josquius on June 10, 2024, 10:38:59 AMNot everyday. Especially since I don't leave the house. But occasionally yes, very much so in some past jobs.

Interesting.  Were you the one granting them undue deference?

DGuller

To answer Jacob's original question, I think part of the explanation is the fact that throughout Western society, many culture war topics are just not up for truly open discussion.  We live in the "freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences of speech" world today, which if you actually think about it is a really Orwellian way to undermine freedom of speech.

Whenever you suppress freedom of speech, whether by government censorship or by grassroots "consequences", you radicalize people.  There is also a second-order effect:  the more you suppress the speech, the more insane the mainstream opinion can get, because constructive criticism is chilled.  The more insane the mainstream gets, the more people start wondering whether the radicals on the other end of political spectrum actually have things right.  They don't really, but they're the only ones whose views haven't been chilled out of public discourse, so that's the only refuge you have when cognitive dissonance on your own side just gets to be untenable.

Josquius

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 10, 2024, 11:07:17 AM
Quote from: Josquius on June 10, 2024, 10:38:59 AMNot everyday. Especially since I don't leave the house. But occasionally yes, very much so in some past jobs.

Interesting.  Were you the one granting them undue deference?
no?
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chipwich

Quote from: grumbler on June 10, 2024, 09:58:29 AMYou quote what you claim is Pinknews, but their article never uses the phrase you lied and claimed they did.


While I should not have used quotation marks when not directly quoting someone, The Toronto sun did not suggest that cervix is being replaced, so Tamas was not deceived. Pinknews and Garbon deceived Tamas by claiming that the Sun was being deceptive.

Razgovory

I'm confused, or maybe just deceived.
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viper37

Quote from: Jacob on May 29, 2024, 03:26:50 PMAgain I wonder what is the driver in this drastic change, and what the potential long term impacts are.
There's what CC posted, and there's the new immigration, much more religious than the older ones.

You'll see it in Canada soon.
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grumbler

Quote from: chipwich on June 10, 2024, 12:38:14 PMWhile I should not have used quotation marks when not directly quoting someone, The Toronto sun did not suggest that cervix is being replaced, so Tamas was not deceived. Pinknews and Garbon deceived Tamas by claiming that the Sun was being deceptive.

No one claimed that cervix was being replaced, and no one claimed that the Toronto Sun made that claim.  The Sun lied about claim the Jo Trust was "apologizing for using the term 'cervix'" so Thomas was deceived by the Sun article and your reference to it. 

I'd argue that the Sun was also being deceptive by citing "social media" reactions as entirely negative (if moronic) by using three examples, all of which were negative.  I understand that the Sun does not really care about being a reliable news outlet any more than Fox News, but even they should have some sense of shame about posting dishonest shit like that.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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