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Israel-Hamas War 2023

Started by Zanza, October 07, 2023, 04:56:14 AM

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Razgovory

Quote from: grumbler on August 02, 2025, 12:28:43 PMHow does a two-year-old girl on the verge of death from Israeli-induced starvation surrender?
See, we already did the famine thing.  The UN cried famine in 2024, claiming there was insufficient food entering Gaza.  They had to back track on that, there was sufficient food coming in.  Oops.  It's like the 16,000 babies that would die in 48 hours claimed last May.  

Anyway,

Quote"The Israelis are known to love life. We, on the other hand, sacrifice ourselves. We consider our dead to be martyrs. The thing any Palestinian desires the most is to be martyred for the sake of Allah, defending his land."

The hypothetical child can ask Mr. Baraka if she really desire to be martyred for Allah.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Razgovory on August 02, 2025, 06:33:32 PMAnd how did that work out for us?  Afghanistan fell, Iraq is in Iran's orbit.  We lost.

You think America lost because it overly respected human rights?  What would you have proposed as an alternative?
We have, accordingly, always had plenty of excellent lawyers, though we often had to do without even tolerable administrators, and seen destined to endure the inconvenience of hereafter doing without any constructive statesmen at all.
--Woodrow Wilson

Zoupa

Should've tried killing every male over 15 and 35% of women and children. Stupid Americans.

Admiral Yi


Israel can not claim the right of self defense.


Zoupa


Zoupa

Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 02, 2025, 08:38:45 PM

Israel can not claim the right of self defense.



That woman is a quack btw. The UN is riddled with weirdos and tankies.

Razgovory

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 02, 2025, 07:54:03 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 02, 2025, 06:33:32 PMAnd how did that work out for us?  Afghanistan fell, Iraq is in Iran's orbit.  We lost.

You think America lost because it overly respected human rights?  What would you have proposed as an alternative?

Break the morale.  Make them hate the war and really want peace.  When they say they want death, call their bluff.  Give them what they ask for.

Missouri had a insurgent problem during the Civil War.  An enterprising sociopath and Southern sympathizer named Anderson kept attacking US troops and militia around the town I now live in, Columbia Mo.  He and his men captured a passenger train about 20 miles from Columbia in a town called Centralia, He and his men executed the two dozen furlough US soldiers on board.  Then they scalped the bodies.  A Union militia formed and tried to drive off the insurgents but where ambushed and slaughtered.  The insurgents executed the wounded and any man who tried to surrender.  In response the Feds burnt the town of Rochport, about 15 mile from my home, to the ground.  They depopulated 4 counties in Western Missouri in an effort deny civilian aid to the insurgents.

War is cruelty, and I think we made a mistake trying to refine it.

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

Quote from: Zoupa on August 02, 2025, 08:37:41 PMShould've tried killing every male over 15 and 35% of women and children. Stupid Americans.

Still didn't answer my question about that, did you?  What is the proper ratio?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

grumbler

Quote from: Zoupa on August 02, 2025, 03:24:34 PMI'm so tired of these comparisons. WW2 was 80 years ago. The Geneva Convention didn't even exist. Aren't we supposed to evolve as a species?

The Geneva Conventions date back to the Nineteenth Century, so were well in place long before and during WW2.

Don't try to rewrite history.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

grumbler

Quote from: Zoupa on August 02, 2025, 05:12:33 PMTrue. Especially since Israel didn't sign it.

More rewriting of history. Knock it off.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Zoupa

Quote from: grumbler on August 02, 2025, 09:31:09 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on August 02, 2025, 05:12:33 PMTrue. Especially since Israel didn't sign it.

More rewriting of history. Knock it off.

Fine. I'm referencing the convention of 1949, post ww2. The protocol 1, which is sort of an add on that relates to civilian protections, has not been ratified by Israel. Happy?

Zoupa

Quote from: Razgovory on August 02, 2025, 08:46:26 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on August 02, 2025, 08:37:41 PMShould've tried killing every male over 15 and 35% of women and children. Stupid Americans.

Still didn't answer my question about that, did you?  What is the proper ratio?

I don't think you should kill males over 15 indiscriminately you fucking moron.

Zoupa

Quote from: Iormlund on August 02, 2025, 06:48:01 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on August 02, 2025, 01:49:46 AMWhat a weird metric. Shouldn't you ask what the ratio should be between combatants and civilians?

Sure. But how are you going to ascertain whether someone was a militant or not? They don't use uniforms or any formal identifier.

I dunno. That's the IDF's problem. Figure it out. They got drones all over 24/7.

Razgovory

Quote from: Zoupa on August 02, 2025, 09:59:05 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 02, 2025, 08:46:26 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on August 02, 2025, 08:37:41 PMShould've tried killing every male over 15 and 35% of women and children. Stupid Americans.

Still didn't answer my question about that, did you?  What is the proper ratio?

I don't think you should kill males over 15 indiscriminately you fucking moron.

Nobody said that.  You really on a role making stuff up tonight aren't you?  You don't want to come up with something like a ratio (something you once asked me), do you?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Zoupa

Your ratio is non sensical. Are all males over 15 in Gaza shooting at the IDF?