Israel-Hamas War 2023

[Razgovory]

Take a step back Raz.  You are now saying things you will not be proud of in the fullness of time.

You are being dishonest, and this sort of dishonesty is why I've lost faith in concept of war crimes.

[grumbler]

It is weird that you and Grumbler dismiss one of the rules of war made to protect civilians. 

It is weird that you seem to believe that you know my position better than I do.

I don't dismiss the "rules of war," but I do understand them, which is a claim that you cannot honestly make.

The Israeli military does not have your excuse.

[Razgovory]

It is weird that you and Grumbler dismiss one of the rules of war made to protect civilians. 

It is weird that you seem to believe that you know my position better than I do.

I don't dismiss the "rules of war," but I do understand them, which is a claim that you cannot honestly make.

The Israeli military does not have your excuse.

Okay, please explain oh teacher.  Is it okay to fight among civilians with nothing to distinguish yourself from the civilians?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7gasuq-438
https://www.idf.il/en/mini-sites/idf-press-releases-israel-at-war/january-24-pr/exposed-video-footage-of-hamas-operational-methods/

[crazy canuck]

Fact is Grumbler is both a teacher and a former member of the military.  There is some chance you would learn something from what he is saying.

[DGuller]

Fact is Grumbler is both a teacher and a former member of the military.  There is some chance you would learn something from what he is saying.

The Grumbler of old would also teach us about appeal to authority. 

[crazy canuck]

Fact is Grumbler is both a teacher and a former member of the military.  There is some chance you would learn something from what he is saying.

The Grumbler of old would also teach us about appeal to authority. 

He would also explain to you what that term means.  He might even do that now.

[DGuller]

Fact is Grumbler is both a teacher and a former member of the military.  There is some chance you would learn something from what he is saying.

The Grumbler of old would also teach us about appeal to authority. 

He would also explain to you what that term means.  He might even do that now.

Grumbler is old enough to speak for himself.

[crazy canuck]

Fact is Grumbler is both a teacher and a former member of the military.  There is some chance you would learn something from what he is saying.

The Grumbler of old would also teach us about appeal to authority. 

He would also explain to you what that term means.  He might even do that now.

Grumbler is old enough to speak for himself.

So why did you make a claim about what the Grumbler of old would do?

[Razgovory]

Tell you what CC, I'll make a deal with you.  Let's put your money where your mouth is.  I'll agree to on the genocide in Gaza/need to exterminate the Jews/whatever thing you are on about, if you give me 50 bucks (American), for every Israeli killed in Gaza.  Since no fire is coming from child-people of Gaza and Hamas is gone and there is no need for a cease fire this is a win/win for you.  You shouldn't have to pay anything.

[Zoupa]

This is the bit where he goes "yeah but those 16 year olds are militants!"

Well, an abnormal number "children" who have been killed were 15-18.  Also quite a few of the women killed were named "Mohammad". 

Source?

I posted it a few months back. CC didn't like it.  The people who wrote it believed in democracy.  He preferred to believe Hamas.

so your source is "trust me, bro". Got it.

[Zoupa]

Your argument is reminiscent of the germans going into Belgium. We took some sniper fire from this village, gruppenfuhrer. Better kill 50 civilians in retaliation then!

[Razgovory]

This is the bit where he goes "yeah but those 16 year olds are militants!"

Well, an abnormal number "children" who have been killed were 15-18.  Also quite a few of the women killed were named "Mohammad". 

Source?

I posted it a few months back. CC didn't like it.  The people who wrote it believed in democracy.  He preferred to believe Hamas.

so your source is "trust me, bro". Got it.

No, my source was posted in this very thread.  On May 11th.  

[Zoupa]

I just read it. The Henry Jackson Society says only 34% of deaths were women and kids, so everything's fine guys.

[Razgovory]

I just read it. The Henry Jackson Society says only 34% of deaths were women and kids, so everything's fine guys.

What is the acceptable ratio of women and kids killed vs military aged men?

[Zoupa]

Since this should have been a police operation and not a military one, 0:1. And the 1 is not "military aged men", it's "Oct 7th perpetrators".