Israel-Hamas War 2023

[Jacob]

If it wasn't because we'll all pay the price, it'd be funny to watch a bunch of completely amoral, incompetent, psychologically unstable, backstabbing, ignorant shitheads violently lunge about and turn everything they touch into shit.

Tragicomical, I guess it the description I'm looking for.

[crazy canuck]

If it wasn't because we'll all pay the price, it'd be funny to watch a bunch of completely amoral, incompetent, psychologically unstable, backstabbing, ignorant shitheads violently lunge about and turn everything they touch into shit.

Tragicomical, I guess it the description I'm looking for.

That's a good description of the Democratic caucus. And then things got really bad when Trump won the election.

[viper37]

AP Exclusive: US and Israel look to Africa for resettling Palestinians uprooted from Gaza

[Grey Fox]

E...

[Duque de Bragança]

AP Exclusive: US and Israel look to Africa for resettling Palestinians uprooted from Gaza

(North) Sudan Somalia and Somaliland. 
Uganda, as suggested back in the day, must have been too good.

[Valmy]

AP Exclusive: US and Israel look to Africa for resettling Palestinians uprooted from Gaza

(North) Sudan Somalia and Somaliland. 
Uganda, as suggested back in the day, must have been too good.

Sudan, Somalia, and Somaliland? 

Almost like he looked around for places as politically unstable as Gaza.

[DGuller]

One of the downsides of crying wolf about genocide is that you no longer have any condemnation left in reserve for when it actually becomes a genocide.  Which it sounds like it might, at least of the forced relocation variety.

[Valmy]

One of the downsides of crying wolf about genocide is that you no longer have any condemnation left in reserve for when it actually becomes a genocide.  Which it sounds like it might, at least of the forced relocation variety.

I get what you are saying...but I think this proves the wolf cryers were ultimately vindicated about Israel's intentions. So I don't think their take away was "oh wow we went too far before, there is now no room to be appropriately outraged, I have learned my lesson."

But yeah, it appears the plan is a massive ethnic cleansing. Which seems insane, evil, and it appears so impractical. What country would be insane enough to want to participate in this? Whose army is going to go through and forcibly remove these people? The IDF? And then who is going to transport these people?

It seems like Trump is making us look like genocidal monsters with little prospect of actually achieving a Palestinian free Gaza. But we'll see I guess.

[Duque de Bragança]

So "only" ethnic cleansing? Margin is getting thinner and thinner though.
Boy crying wolf vindicated, as said by Valmy.

[Razgovory]

One of the downsides of crying wolf about genocide is that you no longer have any condemnation left in reserve for when it actually becomes a genocide.  Which it sounds like it might, at least of the forced relocation variety.

I get what you are saying...but I think this proves the wolf cryers were ultimately vindicated about Israel's intentions. So I don't think their take away was "oh wow we went too far before, there is now no room to be appropriately outraged, I have learned my lesson."

But yeah, it appears the plan is a massive ethnic cleansing. Which seems insane, evil, and it appears so impractical. What country would be insane enough to want to participate in this? Whose army is going to go through and forcibly remove these people? The IDF? And then who is going to transport these people?

It seems like Trump is making us look like genocidal monsters with little prospect of actually achieving a Palestinian free Gaza. But we'll see I guess.

They will be a vindicated when it actually happens.

[Valmy]

They will be a vindicated when it actually happens.

You sure?

I mean if you come out in favor of ethnic cleansing and announce it publicly, it kind of vindicates the people claiming you are in favor of ethnic cleansing. Just because you fail to do it hardly makes you look good here.

[Razgovory]

Yes I'm sure.  Right now this is Trump's bullshit talk.

[Syt]

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-03-13/ty-article/.premium/far-right-french-politician-is-israels-pick-to-address-combating-antisemitism-conference/00000195-8ff6-d4b6-a7dd-bfff4e600000

Israel Invites Europe's Far Right to Conference 'Combating Antisemitism'

This is the first time Israel has invited right-wing European politicians to a national event, signaling a new unspoken foreign policy of forging closer relations with several far-right parties in Europe

Leader of France's far-right National Rally party Jordan Bardella will visit Israel to speak at The International Conference on Combating Antisemitism in March, organized by Israel's Diaspora Affairs Ministry.
In a first, representatives of other European far-right parties were also invited, reflecting a recent and unofficial policy shift within Israel's Foreign Ministry toward closer ties with several of these parties in Europe – a change first exposed by journalist Barak Ravid.

Israeli President Isaac Herzog and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are also expected to participate in the conference, as well as Argentinian President Javier Milei. The President's Residence told Haaretz that it has not yet received a full list of speakers, and was "surprised to hear who the invitees are," given the conference remit is combating antisemitism.

The Diaspora Affairs Ministry has yet to issue a press statement about the conference, but its English website already displays a banner advertising the event's dates as March 26 and 27, as part of Diaspora Week.
The website presents a program for the conference that includes a choice of guided tours to either Judea and Samaria or the Gaza border, a gala evening at the President's Residence, and roundtable discussions and panels on various topics, including 'Double standards, from the battlefield to the ICC'; 'Antisemitism in academia and in public education'; 'Denial: Christian Zionism'; and 'Denial: From the Holocaust to October 7.'

Besides Bardella, right-wing politicians attending the conference include member of the European Parliament Hermann Tertsch of Spain's far-right Vox party; MEP Charlie Weimers of the far-right Sweden Democrats party; MEP Marion Maréchal, granddaughter of National Front founder Jean-Marie Le Pen; and MEP Kinga Gál, of Hungary's ruling Fidesz party.

French media outlets reported on Bardella's invitation, who also shared an article about the conference published by the right-wing weekly Le JDD on X, which called it "a historic event that demonstrates National Rally's place on the global stage."

The Jewish communities in Europe, and particularly in France, have traditionally shunned the far-right parties. CRIF, the umbrella organization of French Jewish communities, issued a statement ahead of the most recent French parliamentary elections, in which it reaffirmed its adherence to a position of "no extreme right, no extreme left."
Among the more conventional listed attendees and speakers are figures like Prisoner of Zion and former minister Natan Sharansky, who confirmed to Haaretz that he will participate in a panel on antisemitism in universities.

Further guests include the French philosopher and writer Bernard-Henri Lévy and U.K. Chief Rabbi Ephraim Mirvis.
The Prime Minister's Office declined to comment.
Haaretz contacted several of the scheduled speakers for comment, but most have yet to respond.

[dist]

Personally, I'm horrified by this small paragraph of the article:

"Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, a longtime advocate of what he calls 'voluntary' emigration of Palestinians, said this week that Israel is working to identify countries to take in Palestinians. He also said Israel is preparing a 'very large emigration department' within its Defense Ministry."

The are preparing to set up an emigration department within Israel's Defense Ministry?!

[viper37]

One of the downsides of crying wolf about genocide is that you no longer have any condemnation left in reserve for when it actually becomes a genocide.  Which it sounds like it might, at least of the forced relocation variety.

What is the difference between attempted murder and murder?