Israel-Hamas War 2023

[The Brain]

Every communist fanboy: that wasn't real communism! 

I mean it wasn't. In real communism there is no state and we will live in an anarchist utopia.

But, of course, that is about as realistic as Santa Claus being a solution to world hunger.

We know what real Communism is like. Political programs are about which actions the state should take. We know what Communist parties do when in power. And it's a fairly good picture since we have a number of data points. Once you get into ideas concerning what those actions might lead to then you have left politics and entered political science/religion, which is something else.

[Valmy]

Every communist fanboy: that wasn't real communism! 

I mean it wasn't. In real communism there is no state and we will live in an anarchist utopia.

But, of course, that is about as realistic as Santa Claus being a solution to world hunger.

We know what real Communism is like. Political programs are about which actions the state should take. We know what Communist parties do when in power. And it's a fairly good picture since we have a number of data points. Once you get into ideas concerning what those actions might lead to then you have left politics and entered political science/religion, which is something else.

Yeah but when Communists discuss the "real Communism" part they mean the political science (political science fiction?)/religion stuff not the actual real life things that have happened.

[viper37]

U.N. peacekeepers in Lebanon pledge not to give in to Israeli demands to 'get out of harm's way'

Who's left to attack in the area?  Civilians, check.  Humanitarians, check.  UN Peackeepers, check.  Lebanon, Iran, Syria, Yemen, check.  At least, they haven't targeted the US this time around.

[crazy canuck]

Every communist fanboy: that wasn't real communism! 

I mean it wasn't. In real communism there is no state and we will live in an anarchist utopia.

But, of course, that is about as realistic as Santa Claus being a solution to world hunger.

We know what real Communism is like. Political programs are about which actions the state should take. We know what Communist parties do when in power. And it's a fairly good picture since we have a number of data points. Once you get into ideas concerning what those actions might lead to then you have left politics and entered political science/religion, which is something else.

Yeah but when Communists discuss the "real Communism" part they mean the political science (political science fiction?)/religion stuff not the actual real life things that have happened.

The stuff that actually happened was not inevitable.  For example, Lenin coming to power was a long shot.  And without Lenin there is no Stalin.

[The Brain]

Every communist fanboy: that wasn't real communism! 

I mean it wasn't. In real communism there is no state and we will live in an anarchist utopia.

But, of course, that is about as realistic as Santa Claus being a solution to world hunger.

We know what real Communism is like. Political programs are about which actions the state should take. We know what Communist parties do when in power. And it's a fairly good picture since we have a number of data points. Once you get into ideas concerning what those actions might lead to then you have left politics and entered political science/religion, which is something else.

Yeah but when Communists discuss the "real Communism" part they mean the political science (political science fiction?)/religion stuff not the actual real life things that have happened.

They sure do.

[OttoVonBismarck]

That's not his question.

Any occupation of land that your blood isn't linked to, is genocide. That is the rubric you pro-Hamas are promoting here. Live with your own standards.

Lines like "land that your blood isn't linked to" make you sound pretty fascisty.  Might want to tone down the racist rhetoric a bit.

And I think that your lectures to the non-existent "pro-Hamas" are a waste of your time here.  They'll be better-received if you stick to Stormfront.

I agree that Josq and the contingent of posters that believe Arabs resident in the Levant have special blood rights to the land are fascists, yes.

[OttoVonBismarck]

U.N. peacekeepers in Lebanon pledge not to give in to Israeli demands to 'get out of harm's way'

Who's left to attack in the area?  Civilians, check.  Humanitarians, check.  UN Peackeepers, check.  Lebanon, Iran, Syria, Yemen, check.  At least, they haven't targeted the US this time around.

The Peacekeepers are just creating safe zones for Hezbollah. They have never once tried to enforce the UN Resolution that justifies their presence (which was actually to keep Hezbollah out of the southern border region of the country), they need removed.

[Razgovory]

In settler colonialist theory you are still a settler colonialist. Settler-colonist is inherited identity.  Invasion isn't an event, it is a structure.  You are still eliminating the natives, you eliminate them by trying to take away their nativeness.  Demanding they speak French is eliminative and oppressive.  In fact, as a settler-colonialist you can't help but be oppressive and eliminationist. 

Ok. So if Viper leaves Quebec and moves to Switzerland or something can he then be upset about civilian deaths? Just checking.

You know, I looked at the beginning of this thread.  I don't think there was an occasion that viper showed any concern for Israeli civilian deaths.

[Razgovory]

U.N. peacekeepers in Lebanon pledge not to give in to Israeli demands to 'get out of harm's way'

Who's left to attack in the area?  Civilians, check.  Humanitarians, check.  UN Peackeepers, check.  Lebanon, Iran, Syria, Yemen, check.  At least, they haven't targeted the US this time around.

The Peacekeepers are just creating safe zones for Hezbollah. They have never once tried to enforce the UN Resolution that justifies their presence (which was actually to keep Hezbollah out of the southern border region of the country), they need removed.

Back in 2010 or so the French did some military maneuvers, and then were disarmed by some angry villagers.  Unarmed villagers.

[DGuller]

When you have a gun but are unwilling to use it, you put yourself at immediate disadvantage.

[OttoVonBismarck]

In settler colonialist theory you are still a settler colonialist. Settler-colonist is inherited identity.  Invasion isn't an event, it is a structure.  You are still eliminating the natives, you eliminate them by trying to take away their nativeness.  Demanding they speak French is eliminative and oppressive.  In fact, as a settler-colonialist you can't help but be oppressive and eliminationist. 

Ok. So if Viper leaves Quebec and moves to Switzerland or something can he then be upset about civilian deaths? Just checking.

You know, I looked at the beginning of this thread.  I don't think there was an occasion that viper showed any concern for Israeli civilian deaths.

Their blood isn't claimant to the soil, like the indigenous French of North America.

[Iormlund]

The Peacekeepers are just creating safe zones for Hezbollah. They have never once tried to enforce the UN Resolution that justifies their presence (which was actually to keep Hezbollah out of the southern border region of the country), they need removed.

Back in 2007 six Spanish soldiers were killed by a car bomb. Apparently their commanding officer had been "shaking things up" after assuming command of the mission. The government was not amused, and ordered the soldiers to play "the three monkeys" from then on.

[Valmy]

In settler colonialist theory you are still a settler colonialist. Settler-colonist is inherited identity.  Invasion isn't an event, it is a structure.  You are still eliminating the natives, you eliminate them by trying to take away their nativeness.  Demanding they speak French is eliminative and oppressive.  In fact, as a settler-colonialist you can't help but be oppressive and eliminationist. 

Ok. So if Viper leaves Quebec and moves to Switzerland or something can he then be upset about civilian deaths? Just checking.

You know, I looked at the beginning of this thread.  I don't think there was an occasion that viper showed any concern for Israeli civilian deaths.

So he is like you with Palestinians and Lebanese. Do you even see them as human beings? I know Otto doesn't.

[Razgovory]

In settler colonialist theory you are still a settler colonialist. Settler-colonist is inherited identity.  Invasion isn't an event, it is a structure.  You are still eliminating the natives, you eliminate them by trying to take away their nativeness.  Demanding they speak French is eliminative and oppressive.  In fact, as a settler-colonialist you can't help but be oppressive and eliminationist. 

Ok. So if Viper leaves Quebec and moves to Switzerland or something can he then be upset about civilian deaths? Just checking.

You know, I looked at the beginning of this thread.  I don't think there was an occasion that viper showed any concern for Israeli civilian deaths.

So he is like you with Palestinians and Lebanese. Do you even see them as human beings? I know Otto doesn't.

Nope.  I have said something about Palestinian civilians.  Viper never even mentions them on Oct 7th.  Of course they are human beings, and sure it's a shame they are being used as shields.

[crazy canuck]

In settler colonialist theory you are still a settler colonialist. Settler-colonist is inherited identity.  Invasion isn't an event, it is a structure.  You are still eliminating the natives, you eliminate them by trying to take away their nativeness.  Demanding they speak French is eliminative and oppressive.  In fact, as a settler-colonialist you can't help but be oppressive and eliminationist. 

Ok. So if Viper leaves Quebec and moves to Switzerland or something can he then be upset about civilian deaths? Just checking.

You know, I looked at the beginning of this thread.  I don't think there was an occasion that viper showed any concern for Israeli civilian deaths.

So he is like you with Palestinians and Lebanese. Do you even see them as human beings? I know Otto doesn't.

I don't think it's fair to lump Raz in with Otto