Israel-Hamas War 2023

[Valmy]

One of the differences between the Ukraine war and the Gaza war is that civilians are directly targeted in the Ukraine war.  It seems to be a Russian strategy to force Ukraine to defend all its assets, not just its military assets, from bombardment.  Israel is not doing that, because for one their enemy is not exactly the kind to compromise their military assets to protect their civilians.  They're actually fond of doing the reverse.

Hamas will bravely fight to the last Palestinian child from Qatar.

[HVC]

So, they're chopping off limbs now. And not the side you'd expect.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/06/middleeast/doctor-israel-hospital-conditions-intl/index.html

[OttoVonBismarck]

I mean would you rather they let them become gangrenous and kill them?

[Tamas]

I mean would you rather they let them become gangrenous and kill them?

I believe the concerning part is prisoners kept under such vile conditions that their restraints rot away their limbs.

[OttoVonBismarck]

I assume they are being held in conditions no worse than the Israeli hostages being held by Hamas.

[viper37]

Well we didn't let Axis soldiers off the hook (with exceptions), maybe legally but not morally; but we did let Allied forces off the hook be it Western terror bombing or to a lesser extent the Soviet rape-rampage through Germany and Hungary.

How many Germans did the the US, UK and France were forcibly displaced to Canada so they could colonize Germany with their own citizens?

[HVC]

Potsdam Agreement?

[OttoVonBismarck]

Well we didn't let Axis soldiers off the hook (with exceptions), maybe legally but not morally; but we did let Allied forces off the hook be it Western terror bombing or to a lesser extent the Soviet rape-rampage through Germany and Hungary.

How many Germans did the the US, UK and France were forcibly displaced to Canada so they could colonize Germany with their own citizens?

There are no colonists in Israel.

[viper37]

I assume they are being held in conditions no worse than the Israeli hostages being held by Hamas.

What you are saying is that Israelis are no better than Palestinians as a society, or that the IDF in itself is no better than Hamas in its treatment of POWs?

Is that your informed opinion as an expert or a statement of fact?

[viper37]

Well we didn't let Axis soldiers off the hook (with exceptions), maybe legally but not morally; but we did let Allied forces off the hook be it Western terror bombing or to a lesser extent the Soviet rape-rampage through Germany and Hungary.

How many Germans did the the US, UK and France were forcibly displaced to Canada so they could colonize Germany with their own citizens?

There are no colonists in Israel.

Of course there aren't.  They conquer a territory, they displace the people, they annex the territory to make it part of Israel.  No more colonists.

[OttoVonBismarck]

They didn't conquer territory, they were assigned territory by the UN and an Arab coalition tried to take it.

[viper37]

They didn't conquer territory, they were assigned territory by the UN and an Arab coalition tried to take it.

They did conquer territory.  They were unsatisfied with what the UN was giving them, they waited for the Arab coalition to DOW them, they got help from Uncle Stalin, attacked the coalition, massacred some of the civilians, occupied their territory and refused to allow those who fled the massacres back in the territory.

And we've been over that before, but you insist with your alternative facts about the Arab League telling Palestinians to leave, which has been demonstrated to be false.

[OttoVonBismarck]

Ah yes, that genius plan of "get invaded day 1 of your existence." Man, you just really can't see past the "evil Jews rule the world" shit you were steeped in can you?

[viper37]

Ah yes, that genius plan of "get invaded day 1 of your existence." Man, you just really can't see past the "evil Jews rule the world" shit you were steeped in can you?

Now, you see antisemites everywhere.  I'd question my own attitudes toward life if I were you.  It's hiding something.  Kinda like the Republicans who are so fervently against homosexuality and keep getting caught in airport bathrooms with other guys.

[Razgovory]

They didn't conquer territory, they were assigned territory by the UN and an Arab coalition tried to take it.

They did conquer territory.  They were unsatisfied with what the UN was giving them, they waited for the Arab coalition to DOW them, they got help from Uncle Stalin, attacked the coalition, massacred some of the civilians, occupied their territory and refused to allow those who fled the massacres back in the territory.

And we've been over that before, but you insist with your alternative facts about the Arab League telling Palestinians to leave, which has been demonstrated to be false.

viper, this is stupid.  Even for you.  They were unsatisfied with the UN agreement so they waited for the Arabs to declare war?  What kind of stupid plan is that?