2024 US Presidential Elections Megathread

[viper37]

Only in Canada would something like the "Dean Scream" be seen as "a big US political scandal."    For an American politician, his behavior was not at all scandalous.

Just saw a meme about it in a US political forum.  Then went to read the Wikipedia page when they said it was some scandal.

But it was later clarified to me that it wasn't really a scandal at the time.  More like, modern young liberals looking at it with some nostalgia, thinking he was cheated out of victory by evil medias who destroyed his campaign.
Granted, it was a little weird that he finished in 3rd place and went on with what seemed like a victory speech, but I'm sure he was not the first politician to act like that.  There is an equivalent in Quebec of a politician losing the election and calling it a "moral victory".  I'm sure it happens in every democracy.   

Weren't you on this forum when that happened?  I mean, we discussed it back then.  It was just a funny thing that happened.  A joke.

I remember Dean now that I've read about him, but I don't remember his victory speech.  It's possible we discussed it here or on Paradox OT. 

I wasn't really following American primaries back then, so I might not have noticed if there was a thread about it.

[The Minsky Moment]

Appeals court drops bond to 175 million.

We should have listened to Seedy.

[Valmy]

Only in Canada would something like the "Dean Scream" be seen as "a big US political scandal."    For an American politician, his behavior was not at all scandalous.

Just saw a meme about it in a US political forum.  Then went to read the Wikipedia page when they said it was some scandal.

But it was later clarified to me that it wasn't really a scandal at the time.  More like, modern young liberals looking at it with some nostalgia, thinking he was cheated out of victory by evil medias who destroyed his campaign.
Granted, it was a little weird that he finished in 3rd place and went on with what seemed like a victory speech, but I'm sure he was not the first politician to act like that.  There is an equivalent in Quebec of a politician losing the election and calling it a "moral victory".  I'm sure it happens in every democracy.   

Weren't you on this forum when that happened?  I mean, we discussed it back then.  It was just a funny thing that happened.  A joke.

I remember Dean now that I've read about him, but I don't remember his victory speech.  It's possible we discussed it here or on Paradox OT. 

I wasn't really following American primaries back then, so I might not have noticed if there was a thread about it.

It was discussed but with the pre-2009 forum being nuked we can't go look at it.

[jimmy olsen]

Appeals court drops bond to 175 million.

Still on hock for the full amount if he loses the appeal, which he will.

This is just the amount he needs to post to stop the State from seizing his property before the appeal is finished.

[Oexmelin]

It won't make a lick of difference.

The courts will not save you.

[CountDeMoney]

It won't make a lick of difference.

The courts will not save you.

LOL, sez courts.

[The Minsky Moment]

Still on hock for the full amount if he loses the appeal, which he will.

The finding of liability will be upheld on appeal but the disgorgement award maybe not.

The reduction of the bond is a bad sign, because as far as I know, it's never been done before.  At least I've never seen it happen and there is no reported case of it happening.  So either the Appellate Division is intimidated by Trump's terror tactics or they think the award was too high.

[The Minsky Moment]

The courts will not save you.

On the contrary the US Supreme Court is hanging back just waiting to stick the last knife in the back.

[Razgovory]

Whose back? 

[CountDeMoney]

Whose back?

America's.  About six entry wounds, I suspect.

[The Minsky Moment]

America's.  About six entry wounds, I suspect.

Five and a concurring wave of the knife from Coney Barret who agrees with the murder but just feels awful about all the blood.

[OttoVonBismarck]

Good, the last thing we need is Trump having financial issues that will hurt his campaign. Now that Joe Biden has thrown his lot in with Islamic terrorism defeating him is a priority of national survival. All of the court cases against Trump should be quashed / thrown out. You don't weaken the fight against someone who is actively seeking to derail America like Biden is.

[The Minsky Moment]

Never go full Hansmeister.

[HVC]

He's gone too far into the heel character, now I just think he's trolling . Otto seemed consistently anti trump. But maybe he's snapped.

[viper37]

But maybe he's snapped.