2024 US Presidential Elections Megathread

[Razgovory]

What is a Hamastan - some weird slur?

It's Raz way of saying he drank the MAGA Kool Aid.

He just thinks he'll fare better than the others if he shows sympathy to the party.

Lots of people who thought so to died in the camps during WWII.

Then again, Mono might be doing very well for himself these days.

You nitwit, that wasn't me.  Otto is said Hamastan, not me.  I haven't become a nationalist.

[viper37]

What is a Hamastan - some weird slur?

It's Raz way of saying he drank the MAGA Kool Aid.

He just thinks he'll fare better than the others if he shows sympathy to the party.

Lots of people who thought so to died in the camps during WWII.

Then again, Mono might be doing very well for himself these days.

You nitwit, that wasn't me.  Otto is said Hamastan, not me.  I haven't become a nationalist.

Sorry.  I confused you two lately, the discourse is so similar.

[viper37]

Biden seems to have shifted his strategy of unconditional, blind support toward Israel.

First, Kamala Harris asking for an immediate cease-fire (with the small caveat that Hamas must respect their conditions, but that's not the headline), then this week-end, saying Bibi did more harm than good for Israel.  That's a clear shift.  Not attacking Israel, but attacking the government.

Let's see if he regains points with the Arab electorate while not losing anything substantial with the Jewish electorate.

[Valmy]

A hopeful sign. Bibi is an opponent of the policy goals of the United States. He is no friend of ours.

[Razgovory]

What is a Hamastan - some weird slur?

It's Raz way of saying he drank the MAGA Kool Aid.
He just thinks he'll fare better than the others if he shows sympathy to the party.
Lots of people who thought so to died in the camps during WWII.
Then again, Mono might be doing very well for himself these days.

You nitwit, that wasn't me.  Otto is said Hamastan, not me.  I haven't become a nationalist.

Sorry.  I confused you two lately, the discourse is so similar.

Yeah, so have you started packing?  You know, for the decolonization?

[viper37]

Nope.  No one ever contested the establishment of a French colony in Quebec, save for the Iroquois Five (later Six) Nations who wanted the territory from themselves and waged war on the Wendat the Montagnais and the Innus, among others.

The current claims by the Wendat on a part of Quebec city arise from a presumed gift by a religious congregation to the Huron-Wendat nation of Wendake.

Again, if the Federal government wants to give back Southern Ontario to the Iroquois League, to restore the lands cheated by Simcoe, be my guest.

[Razgovory]

Dude, every inch of North America is First nations.  So give it up.  You are not indigenous. 

[grumbler]

Biden seems to have shifted his strategy of unconditional, blind support toward Israel.

I'd argue that the change isn't his policy, but your (mis)perception of his policy.

First, Kamala Harris asking for an immediate cease-fire (with the small caveat that Hamas must respect their conditions, but that's not the headline), then this week-end, saying Bibi did more harm than good for Israel.  That's a clear shift.  Not attacking Israel, but attacking the government.

Let's see if he regains points with the Arab electorate while not losing anything substantial with the Jewish electorate.

The Biden Administration has sharpened its rhetoric, but hasn't changed any policies.  Biden has never been a Bibi supporter.

[viper37]

Biden seems to have shifted his strategy of unconditional, blind support toward Israel.

I'd argue that the change isn't his policy, but your (mis)perception of his policy.

First, Kamala Harris asking for an immediate cease-fire (with the small caveat that Hamas must respect their conditions, but that's not the headline), then this week-end, saying Bibi did more harm than good for Israel.  That's a clear shift.  Not attacking Israel, but attacking the government.

Let's see if he regains points with the Arab electorate while not losing anything substantial with the Jewish electorate.

The Biden Administration has sharpened its rhetoric, but hasn't changed any policies.  Biden has never been a Bibi supporter.

He's never been a Bibi supporter, but he gave him a carte-blanche to attack Gaza and shut his eyes for everything else happening in the West Bank under the guise that they were being attacked by Hamas from Gaza.

We're far from the previous discourse.  Even when other allies were asking for a cease-fire the US was totally opposed to that.

[viper37]

On a lighter note:

A parody of Senator Katie Britt's counter speech to Biden

I love it when SNL goes political

[viper37]

Dude, every inch of North America is First nations.  So give it up.  You are not indigenous.

I don't recall Champlain fighting off the natives to establish Quebec city.
Perhaps you misremember Metacomet's War and its outcome?
We didn't fight the indians to exterminate them and sent them packing out of their territory.

[Razgovory]

It doesn't matter.  Saying "there was no person standing right here, so the land must be ours" is silly.  You have a bunch of reservations in Quebec, decolonize now!  Give the land back.

[Valmy]

It doesn't matter.  Saying "there was no person standing right here, so the land must be ours" is silly.  You have a bunch of reservations in Quebec, decolonize now!  Give the land back.

Hey Viper may have Huron ancestors.

[viper37]

It doesn't matter.  Saying "there was no person standing right here, so the land must be ours" is silly.  You have a bunch of reservations in Quebec, decolonize now!  Give the land back.

Of course we have a bunch of reservations in Quebec.

The Abenakis, refugees expelled by the Iroquois and the British.
Mohawks, Catholics expelles by the Iroquois and the British.
Malecites (can't spell their official name, sorry), refugees expelled by Maine's colonists.  Some went back to New-Brunswick and Maine after the war.
Hurons-Wendat of Wendake.  Refugees of attempted genocide from the Iroquois, allied with the English.
Innus and Montagnais, leftovers of the Beaver Wars with the Iroquois, supplied with English and later British weapons.  Negotiations still under way.
Inuits: British Territory, Hudson Bay Company.  Rapatriated to Quebec much later.
Cree: Negotiated settlement with the James Bay treaty.

You should really try harder.

In any case, it falls under the jurisdiction of the Federal Government, with the Indian Act.

We can only deal with the current situations within our own sphere of responsibilities.  Any territorial arrangement has to go through the Federal government.  I'm more than willing to discuss equal to equal, without Federal govt interference.   Not sure Justin is ok with that.

[Razgovory]

So you are saying there was not ONE native American in the confines of Quebec until the British came?