2024 US Presidential Elections Megathread

[Sheilbh]

I think Vance won the debate by normalizing himself, which is unfortunate.

Yeah I think that might be. It's the risk of an attack line like "weird" it doesn't take much to nullify it (because, ultimately, you just need to appear not weird for a bit) and Vance "normalising" himself may well help do this.

I also saw a lot of very confident expectations online from people on the left about Walz. I think possible overconfidence from a stump speech and a few clips online.

It is still very close as Valmy says. Which is terrifying.

[Valmy]

The tendency of some Democrat partisans online to overconfidence is just cope imo. They are hoping they can confidently state their preferred outcome into existence.

[DGuller]

I think there is a tendency in general to so beat down the opponents that you can't help but get high on your own supply, to great detriment.  I think it played out with Ukraine, who have mocked the Russian army so much that they blundered into a a telegraphed counteroffensive with no air power.