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Started by Jacob, September 20, 2022, 12:08:50 AM

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Jacob

That's pretty satsifying to watch.

Jacob

Iranian oil workers walk out: https://twitter.com/omid9/status/1592540008635928577

Also, as I'm sure you've heard, the Iranian parliament passed a resolution that the death penalty should be applied aggressively to protesters - more than 15,000 have been arrested.

There's also been more reports of security forces / revolutionary guard opening fire at crowds of protestors.

grumbler

I am sure that murdering a bunch of sons/daughters, sisters/brothers, etc will endear the regime to the Iranian people.

The Iranian regime lacks the equivalent of the Cossacks.  The people they are going to ask to commit murder have far more in common with the victims than with those giving the orders.
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Tamas

Quote from: grumbler on November 16, 2022, 10:35:30 AMI am sure that murdering a bunch of sons/daughters, sisters/brothers, etc will endear the regime to the Iranian people.

The Iranian regime lacks the equivalent of the Cossacks.  The people they are going to ask to commit murder have far more in common with the victims than with those giving the orders.

That's only partially through I'd wager. As I understand the Revolutionary Guard is quite a wide-spread organisation and its members can't hope to keep their privileges and living standards (or even their lives) if this regime falls.

grumbler

Quote from: Tamas on November 16, 2022, 01:45:38 PMThat's only partially through I'd wager. As I understand the Revolutionary Guard is quite a wide-spread organisation and its members can't hope to keep their privileges and living standards (or even their lives) if this regime falls.

The IRGC is far too large to be closely watched for ideology, and far too corrupt to inspire much loyalty on religious grounds.  There's probably a core of folks too deeply into the misdeeds of the IRGC to hope to survive the restoration of Iranian civilization, but the lowly spearcarriers can't all be counted on to murder their own people, as the IRGC commander himself noted.
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Bayraktar!

Jacob

Apparently protestors have burned down the house (now a museum) of Ayatollah Khomeini: https://twitter.com/dpatrikarakos/status/1593529893907832832

Jacob

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Jacob

Iranians have started covering up security cameras with... sanitary pads: https://twitter.com/KhosroKalbasi/status/1592976806566821888  :lol:

The Larch

QuoteTop Iran footballer arrested at club for 'spreading propaganda against the state'
Detention of Voria Ghafouri, who is not part of World Cup squad, seen as warning to players in Qatar

Iranian security forces on Thursday arrested one of the country's most famous footballers, accusing him of spreading propaganda against the Islamic republic and seeking to undermine the national World Cup team.

Voria Ghafouri, a former member of the national football team and once a captain of the Tehran club Esteghlal, has been outspoken in his defence of Iranian Kurds, telling the government on social media to stop killing Kurdish people. He has previously been detained for criticising the former Iranian foreign minister Javad Zarif.

Iran are due to play Wales on Friday. The Iranian team has already been embroiled in controversy after failing to sing the national anthem before its game against England, and Ghafouri's arrest is likely to be seen as a warning to the players not to repeat their protests.

He was detained after a training session with his club, Foolad Khuzestan, on charges of having "tarnished the reputation of the national team and spread propaganda against the state", the Fars new agency said.

Other agencies said he was being charged with "insulting and intending to destroy the national football team and speaking against the regime".

Ministers in recent days have accused Ghafouri of being a Kurdish separatist, but he replied that he would give his life for Iran. Earlier this year, the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said: "Some people, who benefit from the country's peace and security, enjoying their jobs and their favourite sports, bite the hand that feeds them," a reference many thought was to Ghafouri.

The footballer, 35, was a member of Iran's 2018 World Cup squad, but was surprisingly not named in the final lineup for this year's World Cup in Qatar.

Originally from the Kurdish-populated city of Sanandaj in western Iran, Ghafouri had posted a photo on Instagram of himself in traditional Kurdish dress in the mountains of Kurdistan, but is a cult hero beyond Iran's north-west. Sanandaj endured some of the most violent crackdowns in the protests that followed the death in custody of Mahsa Amini, a 22-year-old Iranian Kurd, and Ghafouri had visited some of those injured in the protests in Mahabad.

In 2019, he distributed blue jerseys in honour of Sahar Khodayari, a woman who self-immolated after being sentenced to prison for attempting to watch an Esteghlal match at Azadi stadium. After another incident of violence against female football fans in 2021, Ghafouri wrote on Instagram: "As a soccer player, I've indeed become humiliated when I play in an era when our mothers and sisters are prohibited from entering stadiums."

Many fans suggested his career at Esteghlal, a championship winning team, was cut short in June as punishment for speaking out. Others argued that in his mid-30s, Ghafouri was too old for the Iranian top flight.

He recently tweeted: "Stop killing Kurdish people!!! Kurds are Iran itself ... Killing Kurds is equal to killing Iran. If you are indifferent to the killing of people, you are not an Iranian and you are not even a human being ... All tribes are from Iran. Do not kill people!!!"

Josquius

So whats the end game here?
The positive one, not the likely one.
How could this possibly end well?
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Threviel

It's seems like the government is going full on Nika revolt on the protesters, tens of thousands in jail and security forces shooting wildly.

My guess is this is not going to end well...

Valmy

Quote from: Threviel on November 25, 2022, 05:14:06 AMIt's seems like the government is going full on Nika revolt on the protesters, tens of thousands in jail and security forces shooting wildly.

My guess is this is not going to end well...

Yeah. It was pretty obvious that the only way out of this for the Iranian Government was a successful crackdown. We'll see how it goes for them.
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viper37

Quote from: Valmy on November 28, 2022, 01:45:19 PM
Quote from: Threviel on November 25, 2022, 05:14:06 AMIt's seems like the government is going full on Nika revolt on the protesters, tens of thousands in jail and security forces shooting wildly.

My guess is this is not going to end well...

Yeah. It was pretty obvious that the only way out of this for the Iranian Government was a successful crackdown. We'll see how it goes for them.
Unless a large part of the army decides to join in the rebellion, I don't see much success in this one either.
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