Is There 'A Hill You're Prepared To Die On' ?

[Valmy]

It is now clear: We must kill Tyr on a hill.

On a hill overlooking the M25?

[Razgovory]

It is now clear: We must kill Tyr on a hill.

On a hill overlooking the M25?

I'm thinking we kill him on a hill sacred to Tiw, the English equivalent of the Norse god Tyr.

[HVC]

Tyr's the brexiter of cars. He want the outcome he wants regardless of the realities

[Josquius]

Tyr's the brexiter of cars. He want the outcome he wants regardless of the realities

Changing the reality is the entire point?

[Eddie Teach]

The Brexiters only want to turn the clock back 70 years instead of 100+.

[Josquius]

The Brexiters only want to turn the clock back 70 years instead of 100+.

I want to take it forward 20

[mongers]

This afternoon I did 150 miles on public transport, that's tw0 long bus trips and a 90 mile train ride, plus 4 miles by car (my brother/sister in law, often insisting on picking me for the last 4-5 miles rather than let me walk in the dark) so not ideal but certainly doable; talking the talk and walking the walk?

Also I did the same journey the other way yesterday afternoon.

[Threviel]

You should be able to afford to live in an accessible place and have access to efficient transport to get you anywhere sensible in the area for a reasonable time and cost.

I have all that. It's a Subaru.

It's all good and fun to believe in magical fairytale solutions, but it does make you seem a bit silly.

[Josquius]

You should be able to afford to live in an accessible place and have access to efficient transport to get you anywhere sensible in the area for a reasonable time and cost.

I have all that. It's a Subaru.

It's all good and fun to believe in magical fairytale solutions, but it does make you seem a bit silly.

In other words you don't have that at all since you need a car to get by.
Do you really think you're paying even a fraction of what having that car really costs? - do your taxes cover all the road maintaince needed?
What would happen if you were blind?

There's no magical fairytale about this. Many cities around the world manage to do it. There's solid research behind it and lots of solid actions that can be taken ranging from the small and simple through the more grandiose and expensive.
It's not even a question of how I wish thing should be. It's increasingly how things have to be. Climate change is beginning to really bite and the American style city ponzi scheme is collapsing.

[celedhring]

I don't even have a driver's license (even in LA I moved by using public transport  ) and I feel fine without a car, but my lifestyle (I work from home 90% of the time, and live in the metro area of a large European capital) is fairly accommodating.

I agree with Sheilbh that we should move towards making cars less essential and the rest will follow.

[Iormlund]

I don't even have a driver's license (even in LA I moved by using public transport  ) and I feel fine without a car, but my lifestyle (I work from home 90% of the time, and live in the metro area of a large European capital) is fairly accommodating.

I agree with Sheilbh that we should move towards making cars less essential and the rest will follow.

It really depends on what kind of job you (and your partner) do.

When I was thinking about moving to Barcelona with my then gf, I worked out that even living in St Joan Despi I was probably going to spend at least a couple hours on a car every day on my rush hour commute to and from Martorell/Abrera.

My brother works IT in Berlin. His longest commute (pre-covid) was 30 minutes roundtrip on a bike.

[Threviel]

You should be able to afford to live in an accessible place and have access to efficient transport to get you anywhere sensible in the area for a reasonable time and cost.

I have all that. It's a Subaru.

It's all good and fun to believe in magical fairytale solutions, but it does make you seem a bit silly.

In other words you don't have that at all since you need a car to get by.
Do you really think you're paying even a fraction of what having that car really costs? - do your taxes cover all the road maintaince needed?
What would happen if you were blind?

There's no magical fairytale about this. Many cities around the world manage to do it. There's solid research behind it and lots of solid actions that can be taken ranging from the small and simple through the more grandiose and expensive.
It's not even a question of how I wish thing should be. It's increasingly how things have to be. Climate change is beginning to really bite and the American style city ponzi scheme is collapsing.

We're fully in agreement when it comes to cities and densely populated areas, but there needs to be a battery of solutions to be able to handle everything from Shanghai to Sahara. In my location I need independent transport and good public transport around here would be a waste of resources. In other locations other solutions will be needed.

The one size fits all solutions where everyone should have a subway around the corner is ridiculous and a magical fairy tale exposing the proponents ignorance.

[Josquius]

We're fully in agreement when it comes to cities and densely populated areas, but there needs to be a battery of solutions to be able to handle everything from Shanghai to Sahara. In my location I need independent transport and good public transport around here would be a waste of resources. In other locations other solutions will be needed.

The one size fits all solutions where everyone should have a subway around the corner is ridiculous and a magical fairy tale exposing the proponents ignorance.

And who thinks there's a one size fits all lets build metro stations even in the Highlands solution?

[Threviel]

And who thinks there's a one size fits all lets build metro stations even in the Highlands solution?

You should be able to afford to live in an accessible place and have access to efficient transport to get you anywhere sensible in the area for a reasonable time and cost.

Implies that you do since you don't equate that with a car in rural locations.

[Josquius]

And who thinks there's a one size fits all lets build metro stations even in the Highlands solution?

You should be able to afford to live in an accessible place and have access to efficient transport to get you anywhere sensible in the area for a reasonable time and cost.

Implies that you do since you don't equate that with a car in rural locations.

1: I have no idea where you were live. That you were arguing against this suggested a city area. It goes without saying if your house is the only one for miles around then your particular house will never be viable without a car. Which is a difficult challenge to tackle.

2: I stand by the bit you've quoted. You SHOULD be able to afford to live somewhere with decent transport. People shouldn't be economically forced to live in crappy isolated houses where they've no choice but to drive.