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Started by Admiral Yi, July 22, 2009, 03:15:40 PM

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Viking

#1335
November 08, 2009, 03:11:01 PM
Bingo, Medelian inheritance was necessary to show how traits could be inherited. Previously inheritance was thought to be a mixture of the traits of the parents, red and white parents result in pink children etc.etc. Darwin's problem was that any mutation would be diluted through the generations.

But you got the order wrong. Mendel did his work in the 1860's just after Darwins publication, but he published it in a Brno Botany Journal in German. A copy of this paper (in German) was found among Darwin's papers after his death. But ti seems he never was able to read it. Mendel's work was suppressed by the local catholic church and ordered Mendel to stop his science.

A few strange things about Mendels paper and his experiments. It seems that he designed his experiments in such a manner that it seems that he knew the results beforehand. The 7 traits he selected for were all on different genes so could be selected for.

But volksdeutsche Vlad Tepes is correct, the re-discovery of Mendel's work and it's confirmation filled in the hole in Darwinian Evolution through Natural selection by demonstrating a mechanism which would prevent mutations from being diluted.

Naturally after 100 further years of work the Theory has been developed further and is only called "Darwin's Theory" by creationists.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Eddie Teach

#1336
November 08, 2009, 03:15:02 PM
Quote from: Viking on November 08, 2009, 03:11:01 PM
Naturally after 100 further years of work the Theory has been developed further and is only called "Darwin's Theory" by creationists.

:yeahright:

Not very classy of all those other biologists to try to steal credit imo.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Alexandru H.

#1337
November 08, 2009, 03:18:43 PM
Highschool memories FTW!  :cool:

I leave the floor opened for someone else's questions

Razgovory

#1338
November 08, 2009, 04:03:12 PM
That of course wasn't the only flaw in this theory.  One of the most problematic was that Lord Kelvin had calculated the life span of the sun.  Since it could only last a few million years it was in conflict with Darwin's observations.  This wasn't resolved until the discovery of Fusion.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Viking

#1339
November 08, 2009, 04:18:30 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 08, 2009, 04:03:12 PM
That of course wasn't the only flaw in this theory.  One of the most problematic was that Lord Kelvin had calculated the life span of the sun.  Since it could only last a few million years it was in conflict with Darwin's observations.  This wasn't resolved until the discovery of Fusion.

Kelvin wasn't a big problem. His assumptions used for the age of the earth and sun. Anyway, Kelvin did his math in the 1890's, Lyell had an age of the earth in hundreds of millions of years based on sedimentation. Bequerelle had the age of the earth at 500 million in the 1890's as well. There were hypotheses which made the earth old enough. There were no hypotheses which explained how traits would not be diluted.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Alexandru H.

#1340
November 10, 2009, 01:32:34 PM Last Edit: November 10, 2009, 02:11:00 PM by Alexandru H.
Since nobody wants to ask...

By the year 1000 most of the Muslim world (made in majority of Sunnis) was dominated by no less than 12 Shia dinasties. Only two important Sunni regimes stood proud while facing this dire situation.

Question A: What were these two dynasties?
Question B: Name three Shia dynasties of that period, while placing them geographically
Question C: What were the two great dynastical events of the 11th century that managed to end this period of glory for the Shia faith? (by dynastical I mean the emergence of two new dynasties)

Admiral Yi

#1341
November 10, 2009, 05:13:29 PM
Umayyid, Abbasid

Fatamids in Egypt
Safavids in Iran??
Mumble mumble mumble?

Eddie Teach

#1342
November 10, 2009, 05:16:52 PM
I like Yi's answers.

For C, I'd guess the emergence of the Ottomans is one.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Maximus

#1343
November 10, 2009, 05:25:50 PM
The Timurids or some other mongol dynasty?

garbon

#1344
November 10, 2009, 05:29:11 PM
I don't think the Ottomans and Timurids were around in the 11th century.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Alexandru H.

#1345
November 10, 2009, 05:31:47 PM
That was actually my mistake. I shouldn't ask questions about the Muslim Middle Ages  :lmfao:

garbon

#1346
November 10, 2009, 05:33:47 PM
I'd guess that the Seljuks are one and maybe the Zirids.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Admiral Yi

#1347
November 10, 2009, 05:35:44 PM
Pretty sure the Seljuks were Sunni.

garbon

#1348
November 10, 2009, 05:39:46 PM
Yeah my answers were just to part C.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Razgovory

#1349
November 10, 2009, 05:46:01 PM
Wait is our year 1000 or their year 1000?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017
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