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Which movie(s) do you remain "loyal" to?

Started by Oexmelin, April 26, 2021, 06:05:46 PM

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Admiral Yi

Interesting Joan.  I've never heard that interpretation before.

The Brain

What does this mean? :hmm:

Sweet home Alabama (oh, sweet home)
Where the skies are so blue
And the governor's true
Sweet home Alabama (lordy)
Lord I'm comin' home to you, yeah, yeah
Montgomery's got the answer
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Admiral Yi


viper37

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on April 30, 2021, 04:54:13 AM
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Flemings Bond hasn't really aged well either, the parts about raping lesbianism out of his girls is no exactly pc today. The

Good god, I tried watching a Bond movie, and the misogyny was just too much.

Not to mention Bond's opinion of the Beatles, in this age of autotune hip-hop.  :lol:
OSS 117 didn't have to go very far to parody Bond :P
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viper37

Quote from: The Brain on April 30, 2021, 02:53:20 PM
What does this mean? :hmm:

Sweet home Alabama (oh, sweet home)
Where the skies are so blue
And the governor's true
Sweet home Alabama (lordy)
Lord I'm comin' home to you, yeah, yeah
Montgomery's got the answer
https://www.npr.org/2018/12/17/676863591/sweet-home-alabama-lynyrd-skynyrd-southern-discomfort-american-anthem
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Oexmelin

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 30, 2021, 01:57:50 PM
It's an ambiguous line, 'boo-boo-boo" or "boo-hoo-hoo" followed by "we all did what we could do" - it could be interpreted as the band saying they didn't like Wallace despite his popular support and did what "they could do" to oppose him or it could be interpreted as sarcasm over the opposition to Wallace and expression of their support of him - i.e. doing what they could do to help his cause. IIRC one of the surviving band members says it was intended to signal opposition.  That interpretation sort of makes sense in light of the Watergate line that follows: i.e. we aren't judging the entire North because of the Watergate scandal; you shouldn't judge the entire South b/c of Wallace. On the other hand the band did incorporate the Confederate battle flag in their own iconography.  And the Watergate line could be read as saying we don't care what you libs say about Wallace just like we don't care about Watergate.

As a practical matter. rightly or wrongly the song seems to have been co-opted by the meatheads.

From Rolling Stones:

Quote"This persistent narrative may soothe listeners of the liberal persuasion, who have difficulty reconciling how music this powerful may be telegraphing politics with which they disagree, but it also has the ultimate effect of widening the gap between Ronnie Van Zant and the latter-day Skynyrd, suggesting the two don't share similar roots. The divide is crystallized within the contrast between Van Zant's "Saturday Night Special," a 1975 hit where he claims "hand guns are made for killin', they ain't no good for nothin' else," and "God and Guns," the title track to a 2009 album where Skynyrd pledges allegiance to these two things above all else. These two songs would suggest that the Skynyrd of the 21st Century is considerably more conservative than the Skynyrd of the 1970s – a notion that is generally true, but with some important caveats.

First of all, the Ronnie Van Zant of legend doesn't quite square with the real Ronnie Van Zant. As detailed in If I Leave Here Tomorrow, Stephen Kijak's first-rate Lynyrd Skynyrd documentary that premiered at South By Southwest earlier this year and recently screened at the Nashville Film Festival, Ronnie was hardheaded and contradictory, the kind of guy who would write "Saturday Night Special" while owning a .22 pistol. A wobbly stance on gun control can be waved away – Van Zant claimed he used his gun for hunting, and in archival footage in If I Leave Here Tomorrow, he says he only owns a rifle – but it's harder to grapple with the suggestion Ronnie may have supported some of Wallace's politics. Both Ed King and Charlie Daniels are quoted by journalist Mark Kemp in his excellent Dixie Lullaby: A Story of Music, Race and New Beginnings in a New South claiming that Ronnie was a "big fan of George Wallace" and "had great respect" for the governor, a fact that skews the conventional notion of "Sweet Home Alabama" of being a protest song against the governor."

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/lynyrd-skynyrd-inside-the-bands-complicated-history-with-the-south-629080/
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The Brain

Quote from: viper37 on April 30, 2021, 04:41:01 PM
Quote from: The Brain on April 30, 2021, 02:53:20 PM
What does this mean? :hmm:

Sweet home Alabama (oh, sweet home)
Where the skies are so blue
And the governor's true
Sweet home Alabama (lordy)
Lord I'm comin' home to you, yeah, yeah
Montgomery's got the answer
https://www.npr.org/2018/12/17/676863591/sweet-home-alabama-lynyrd-skynyrd-southern-discomfort-american-anthem

I didn't see anything there about that part.
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grumbler

One of the movies I've realized I am overly loyal to is Buckaroo Banzai.  It's attempts to be over the top is so awkward that it is endearing.  I won't argue with people who just find it dumb, but will say to myself that they just don't have the sense of fun needed to enjoy it.
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Maladict

Quote from: viper37 on April 29, 2021, 05:48:52 PM
Robin Hood: Prince of thieves

.  Better than any Robin Hood that came after, for sure.

I'll take Men in Tights over the Costner film any time.

Tonitrus

The best Robin Hood is still the old 80's BBC series.

celedhring

Alan Rickman absolutely steals Prince of Thieves. "And call off Christmas!".

I'd watch the film just for that performance.


The Larch

Quote from: celedhring on May 01, 2021, 05:50:17 AM
Alan Rickman absolutely steals Prince of Thieves. "And call off Christmas!".

I'd watch the film just for that performance.

He really did the best villains, Hans Gruber is from around the same time.

I was not super keen about the witch part of the Prince of Thieves version of Robin Hood, though.

DontSayBanana

Which movies are perpetual go-tos for me? Any of Mel Brooks' movies. I get the same laughs out of Blazing Saddles, Robin Hood: Men in Tights and Young Frankenstein now that I got as a kid. Only one I could see myself having "grown out of" is Spaceballs having lost some of its shine for me.

Also, on the flip side, there were movies I enjoyed as a kid like The Rocky Horror Picture Show partly to fit in that I've found myself appreciating even more after going back and watching with context I didn't have when I was younger.
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celedhring

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Quote from: The Larch on May 01, 2021, 06:49:22 AM
Quote from: celedhring on May 01, 2021, 05:50:17 AM
Alan Rickman absolutely steals Prince of Thieves. "And call off Christmas!".

I'd watch the film just for that performance.

He really did the best villains, Hans Gruber is from around the same time.

I was not super keen about the witch part of the Prince of Thieves version of Robin Hood, though.

The bit where she scratches a pot with her lone long fingernail is one of those unpleasant movie moments from my childhood that are engraved in my mind. But yeah,

The movie has many issues, much was said of Freeman's character but for me the most uncomfortable bits (I rewatched it around the time Rickman died) is that it's at the same time ridiculous and super-serious, with often horrifying results - like all the goofing around Marian being sexually harassed/raped.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Tonitrus on May 01, 2021, 05:00:20 AM
The best Robin Hood is still the old 80's BBC series.

I'm skeptical that it beats the Disney version.  :sleep:
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