If You Have Been Vaccinated, Have You Changed Your Behavior?

[Monoriu]

Sometimes I check if people have complied with compulsory testing orders, which are common around here.  They say they don't need to, because they have already been vaccinated 

I say that's not what the law says.  The law says you need to get tested, vaccinated or not.  So I then gave him a ticket to increase government revenue by US$600

[merithyn]

Being vaccinated is not a magical status that means you can't spread the virus anymore. Being vaccinated is supposed to help you fight off the virus if you catch it. You can still be contagious/catch a variant to which your immune system is less prepared/vaccine didn't work for you.

For example the J&J vaccine is 100% effective in terms of hospitalization and death prevention. It's only 65% effective in terms of preventing an actual Sars-Cov2 infection though.

I've gotten the Moderna. This is the current information on that vaccine:

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Ahandful of recent studies suggest that the coronavirus vaccines developed by Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna not only prevent people who are exposed to the virus from contracting Covid-19, but also prevent them from spreading the virus to others—and some experts say public health messaging should start reflecting that benefit.

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[DGuller]

Yeah, I think the extreme risk aversion is counter-productive, and risks undermining credibility.  If vaccines aren't perfectly effective, but effective enough to reduce the risk to the level of acceptable casualties, then act like it with the policies.  Don't justify more of the same by stressing that some risk still remains (no shit). 

That said, I won't take it upon myself to make that determination, and I have faith that CDC officials do have a more nuanced understanding of public safety than wishing that everyone were holed up in their homes quadruple-masked under plastic wrap for the next ten years.

[Sophie Scholl]

Fully vaccinated and post 2 weeks in now and I'm still masking and maintaining social distancing unless I'm in a (small) group of people I know have all been fully vaccinated. I presume that will be my go-to for the foreseeable future.

[Berkut]

THis Sunday I am going to go to a friend house and watch the Formula 1 race and play Stellar Horizons with a group of people who have all been vaccinated.

I would not do that except that everyone involved has been vaccinated fully.

[alfred russel]

I just follow the rules and don't really think about it.

So for those with this line of behavior, what would you do if the government had already removed all the rules and local businesses didn't have any of their own? And like 95% of people inside stores had no masks, including workers.

[crazy canuck]

Being vaccinated is not a magical status that means you can't spread the virus anymore. Being vaccinated is supposed to help you fight off the virus if you catch it. You can still be contagious/catch a variant to which your immune system is less prepared/vaccine didn't work for you.

For example the J&J vaccine is 100% effective in terms of hospitalization and death prevention. It's only 65% effective in terms of preventing an actual Sars-Cov2 infection though.

Yeah, it is a bit concerning hearing someone describe themselves as "immune" because they have been vaccinated.  Immunity will come when COVID is no longer being transmitted.

[Sheilbh]

So for those with this line of behavior, what would you do if the government had already removed all the rules and local businesses didn't have any of their own? And like 95% of people inside stores had no masks, including workers.

I'd follow social cues to be honest. Very British response, I know, but I'd do what seemed polite given the context.

[Richard Hakluyt]

I just follow the rules and don't really think about it.

So for those with this line of behavior, what would you do if the government had already removed all the rules and local businesses didn't have any of their own? And like 95% of people inside stores had no masks, including workers.

Right now I would join in the fun; each individual makes very little difference and I have no personal fear of the virus. I think it would be a mistaken policy though, right now "freedom day" for the UK is set to be the 21st of June, with the way cases and vaccinations are going that looks about right to me (famous last words).

[PDH]

No change.  Still mostly introverted.  My cat gives me all the abuse I might be missing not interacting with the public outside of work.

[alfred russel]

Yeah, it is a bit concerning hearing someone describe themselves as "immune" because they have been vaccinated.  Immunity will come when COVID is no longer being transmitted.

this isn't correct. They are almost certainly "resistant to a particular infection or toxin owing to the presence of specific antibodies or sensitized white blood cells" - while they may not have sufficient resistance to eliminate the risk of infection completely, it seems ~100% of vaccinated people have enough resistance to prevent serious complications and death.

On the other hand, community transmission is irrelevant to immunity. Someone not vaccinated to polio is likely not immune even though his/her risk is zero assuming he/she lives in North America or Europe and polio is no longer being transmitted in those places.

[crazy canuck]

An odd result to consider immune someone who can still be infected and pass on that infection - in the context of a world wide pandemic.

[alfred russel]

An odd result to consider immune someone who can still be infected and pass on that infection - in the context of a world wide pandemic.

If your standard for "immune" requires absolute protection from any infection from everyone who has received the vaccine in the population, there is a very short list of vaccines (maybe zero) in history that have ever made someone "immune".

These vaccines are about as good as it gets.

[crazy canuck]

An odd result to consider immune someone who can still be infected and pass on that infection - in the context of a world wide pandemic.

If your standard for "immune" requires absolute protection from any infection from everyone who has received the vaccine in the population, there is a very short list of vaccines (maybe zero) in history that have ever made someone "immune".

These vaccines are about as good as it gets.

You might have missed it but this thread is about how people will conduct themselves after they get vaccinated.  That has a lot to do with passing on infections to others.  Unless you are a person who does not think of others.