What does a BIDEN Presidency look like?

[Berkut]

When it comes time to vote you can lecture me about it being a "binary choice".

But not when it comes to a general discussion about what public policy choices I want to see implemented.

History suggests that Berkut can lecture you whenever he feels like it.

Yes, I am the only person on languish who "lectures" anyone. Of course.

I see we are in the full on ad hom part of the discussion.

[Berkut]

Hey Jake, do you think garbon's assessment of me being a dick because I didn't agree with his evaluation of my contemplating working in China in regards to genocide was a fair conclusion? Do you feel like his basic response to my own reasons why I didn't agree with him (the accusation that I was just rationalizing my support for genocide) was fair and reasonable?

[alfred russel]

You literally said I should get a brown star for my shirt a few weeks ago because I disagreed with the tactic of holding the impeachment trial in February versus a few months later.

[Berkut]

You literally said I should get a brown star for my shirt a few weeks ago because I disagreed with the tactic of holding the impeachment trial in February versus a few months later.

[Razgovory]

Deficit spending is an intergenerational transfer.  We are robbing future generations to pay for goodies in the present.

I have no quarrel with Future-Raz, but that guy hates my guts.  He blames me for everything!

[Admiral Yi]

I have no quarrel with Future-Raz, but that guy hates my guts.  He blames me for everything!

That dudes a cunt.  Don't worry present Raz, we have your back.

[Eddie Teach]

Future Raz has better dance moves.

[Berkut]

What does Present Raz think about Past Raz?

[Barrister]

Going to put this here as we don't have a more generic US election thread:

'Disgusting' robocall accuses Texas candidate Wright of causing husband's death
Wright supporters reported receiving the calls the day before the special election in Texas' 6th District.


04/30/2021 02:18 PM EDT

Updated: 04/30/2021 03:38 PM EDT

Texas Republican congressional candidate Susan Wright is seeking help from federal law enforcement the day before her special election, after supporters reported receiving robocalls that accused her of being responsible for the death of her late husband.

Wright's campaign reached out to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Department of Justice on Friday after discovering robocalls baselessly alleging that she had "murdered" her husband, the late GOP Rep. Ron Wright. Wright is running in the special election to succeed Wright, who passed away in February after being diagnosed with coronavirus.

Wright aides say they found out about the robocalls on Friday morning, a day before Saturday's crowded all-party primary.

"This is illegal, immoral, and wrong. There's not a sewer too deep that some politicians won't plumb," Wright said in a statement.

A female voice begins the minute-long robocall by saying that Wright "murdered her husband," and that "she's now running for Congress to cover it up." The robocalls do not have a "paid-for" attribution saying who is paying for the attacks.

The robocall then claims that "according to confidential sources," Wright "obtained a $1 million life insurance policy on the life of her husband...six months before his death." It then says that Wright "tearfully confided in a nurse that she had purposely contracted the coronavirus."

It adds that the hospital "has made a formal criminal referral to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and they have now opened a formal criminal inquiry into the matter," before concluding: "It is clear that the voters of Texas' 6th Congressional District deserve to know the truth about Susan Wright and her involvement in the death of her husband."

Recipients of the calls say they are being made from a blocked number. In addition to reaching out to the FBI and the Department of Justice, the Wright campaign has been in touch with the Tarrant County Sheriff's Department.

"When we heard reports of this criminal smear of a voicemail attacking Susan, we immediately referred the matter to law enforcement and started cooperating with authorities," Matt Langston, a Wright campaign consultant, said in a statement. "Susan's opponents are desperate and resorting to disgusting gutter politics because they know she's the frontrunner.

Wright has received the endorsement of former President Donald Trump, who appeared with her on a conference call earlier this week held by the anti-tax Club for Growth, which is also supporting her. She is running in a Republican field that includes businessman Michael Wood, former Trump administration official Brian Harrison, and retired pro wrestler Dan Rodimer.

The race has been a relatively tame affair until now. The candidates have taken few direct shots at one another in their television ads, though the Club for Growth has been attacking GOP candidate Jake Ellzey, casting him as an anti-Trump Republican because he received a donation from Trump critic Bill Kristol.

Ellzey said he was shocked to hear about the robocall while on the campaign trail with former Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

"This is horrible," Ellzey said. "It's unbelievable that anybody would stoop so low."

Former Trump official Brian Harrison, another leading GOP candidate, also condemned the call.

"Voters are sick of candidates resorting to disgraceful negative attacks," he said in a statement. "And I'm proud our campaign has focused on my conservative achievements and ability to defeat Biden's radical agenda."

Wright has been running as someone who could continue the legacy of her husband. The two have been active in local GOP politics in the community for decades, and Trump touted their strong relationship in the tele-town hall held with Wright and the Club for Growth on Thursday night.

"It's a great honor to be with Susan," Trump said. "It's a great honor to help a friend of mine who thought so much, not only in terms of he loves Susan, but he respected Susan. He respected everything she said and that's Ron Wright, who served us so well for a long period of time."

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/30/texas-election-robocol-susan-wright-husband-485113

[Valmy]

Damn. I hate how personal and dirty politics can be.

[garbon]

He is absolutely NOT succumbing to the demands from the <insert word other then woke to describe exactly what we all know that word describes in this context> crowd to make a bunch of dumbass speeches about defunding the police or abolishing cops or cancelling anyone.

Not succumbing to black people?

Yes, that's right. That is the only possible thing that anything can be about. It's all about you, always.

You misuse a term, when I tell you that's hurtful, you then double down on it. I guess the other option is that you are just a dick?

I did not use the term, as I stated time and again. You are not even the least bit hurt, and are happy to repeat over and over and over again that I must be a racist if I don't agree with you.

Frankly, I really could not fucking care less if you pretend to be "hurt" while you accuse me of being a closet GOP racist every fucking time a conversation comes up that I don't align with your views, even when it is a subject that I don't even consider to be ABOUT those views. It's exhausting, and I am done.

Funny how you say I called you a racist when the only mention of that was me saying that I know people using the term on Languish are not racist.

But yeah dick it is. Explains the genocide stance too.

Thanks for making it clear how uninterested in you are in actual discussion. Yes, I am totally an advocate for genocide because I don't agree that your posturing while doing nothing yourself is the end game of how to react to it.

There is never a point in any discussions with you. You are convinced you are always right and never have anything to learn.

[garbon]

Hey Jake, do you think garbon's assessment of me being a dick because I didn't agree with his evaluation of my contemplating working in China in regards to genocide was a fair conclusion? Do you feel like his basic response to my own reasons why I didn't agree with him (the accusation that I was just rationalizing my support for genocide) was fair and reasonable?

I don't think you support genocide. I do think you find it easy to not care about issues that don't personally affect you.

[viper37]

Does that mean that if I take out that huge mortgage to buy a house, that I am robbing my future self in order to have a goodie home in the present? 

If you take a reverse mortgage on your house, you are effectively transferring your debt to your heirs.

As for mortgage in itself, banks won't loan you for more than you are expecting to repay withing a reasonable time frame (max 25 years over here), so the point is moot, they won't loan 800k$ at 75 yo when you only have a modest rent, but expect someone else to pay it back.

[DGuller]

I don't think that a mortgage makes a good analogy.  Mortgages always come paired with assets.  Taking out a reverse mortgage doesn't saddle your children with debt, it merely takes a portion of your house out of their inheritance. 

[Tonitrus]

Going to put this here as we don't have a more generic US election thread:

http://languish.org/forums/index.php/topic,15715.0.html