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What does a BIDEN Presidency look like?

Started by Caliga, November 07, 2020, 12:07:22 PM

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Razgovory

It was a pretty shitty episode as well.
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Why would someone put on their mask so crooked? :bleeding: He can always use a mirror if he has such a hard time feeling out the center by feel.

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Syt

So, Biden is starting to reverse the Trump legacy, just as Trump was trying to reverse the Obama legacy. Which Republican will try to reverse the Biden legacy?
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Tamas

Quote from: Syt on January 21, 2021, 12:05:19 PM
So, Biden is starting to reverse the Trump legacy, just as Trump was trying to reverse the Obama legacy. Which Republican will try to reverse the Biden legacy?

Ivanka.

Barrister

Quote from: Tamas on January 21, 2021, 12:09:40 PM
Quote from: Syt on January 21, 2021, 12:05:19 PM
So, Biden is starting to reverse the Trump legacy, just as Trump was trying to reverse the Obama legacy. Which Republican will try to reverse the Biden legacy?

Ivanka.

There is no chance in hell Ivanka is ever President.

Don Jr, on the other hand...
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Syt

I do find it problematic, though, when successive governments of opposing parties primarily try to revert what their predecessors did. Some of it is natural, due to opposing policies, but for Trump it seemed to be a staple, and obviously the Democrats want to undo his damage. I expect, though, that the next time the Rs have the power again, they will try to re-undo things.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: Syt on January 21, 2021, 12:12:43 PM
I do find it problematic, though, when successive governments of opposing parties primarily try to revert what their predecessors did. Some of it is natural, due to opposing policies, but for Trump it seemed to be a staple, and obviously the Democrats want to undo his damage. I expect, though, that the next time the Rs have the power again, they will try to re-undo things.
So I don't mind it in theory because as you say it's partly in the nature of elections in a two party system. I think the bigger issue is that because Congress hasn't worked for some time a lot of the agenda of both parties is being implemented as far as possible by the executive. Whether that's lots of executive orders or the Paris Agreement being deliberately drafted in a way to avoid the Senate ratification requirements.

For some reason it feels okay for me to try and overturn, say, Obamacare. But it's more problematic that the lives of so many people because of their immigration status can be based on executive orders and that they'll just ping-pong on this - same for climate.
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mongers

#459
I think there isn't an equivalence between Trump's trashing of US institutions or international involvements and most of Biden's new executive orders, it's not a ping-pong situation where those are two opposing sides either side of a balanced middle.

Trump was an extremist, exiting WHO, something the US had a major hand in setting up and funding was a hollow domestic political act, no other US administration had ever planned on leaving it.

Similarly leaving the open skies treaty was just wanton vandalism, damaging US national security by losing access to a useful set of international protocols.
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Grey Fox

Quote from: Sheilbh on January 21, 2021, 12:32:34 PM
Quote from: Syt on January 21, 2021, 12:12:43 PM
I do find it problematic, though, when successive governments of opposing parties primarily try to revert what their predecessors did. Some of it is natural, due to opposing policies, but for Trump it seemed to be a staple, and obviously the Democrats want to undo his damage. I expect, though, that the next time the Rs have the power again, they will try to re-undo things.
So I don't mind it in theory because as you say it's partly in the nature of elections in a two party system. I think the bigger issue is that because Congress hasn't worked for some time a lot of the agenda of both parties is being implemented as far as possible by the executive. Whether that's lots of executive orders or the Paris Agreement being deliberately drafted in a way to avoid the Senate ratification requirements.

For some reason it feels okay for me to try and overturn, say, Obamacare. But it's more problematic that the lives of so many people because of their immigration status can be based on executive orders and that they'll just ping-pong on this - same for climate.


It all revolves again back to Moscow Mitch & the abortion issue.
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Syt

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Josquius

Wow. That is pretty close.
Wonder if she did it on purpose?
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