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Started by Barrister, November 03, 2020, 01:17:04 PM

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alfred russel

Quote from: DGuller on December 09, 2020, 04:43:25 PM
I hope this lawsuit won't give Supreme Court an opportunity to buy credibility that they do not deserve.  They could take on this case and rule 9-0 on it, and suddenly everyone will think that they're above the political fray, when in reality they just know how to stay marginally within bounds.

I don't think you understand the country. If they take the case and rule 9-0 on it, everyone won't think they are above the political fray: a very sizeable portion of republicans will think their 6 appointees are sleeper democratic operatives.
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11B4V

Yup, their deep state fall back shtick.Their gooooo to.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

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Razgovory

Armed Trump supporters were out the home of the Michigan Secretary of State's home.  Two months ago, several Trump supporters were arrested in a plot to kill the Governor of Michigan.  In Kansas a man was arrested for plotting to murder a mayor in Kansas.  This is going to keep getting worse.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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Darth Wagtaros

Well the lack of proof in voter fraud is proof that there is voter fraud, as the media, law enforcement, politicians and judges are disappearing it.  Therefor these freedom fighters are justified. 
PDH!

grumbler

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on December 09, 2020, 07:01:59 PM
Well the lack of proof in voter fraud is proof that there is voter fraud, as the media, law enforcement, politicians and judges are disappearing it.  Therefor these freedom fighters are justified.

Yep. If there was no voter fraud, why are the Deep State and the media hiding it?
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Bayraktar!

Darth Wagtaros

There are serious questions and questioning the questions is also proof that you hate democracy and America.  THere is no way to win so there is no reason to engage.  Just have to hope they finish each other off in Parler and don't ruin any one else's lives.
PDH!

The Larch

Quote from: The Larch on December 09, 2020, 07:41:52 AM
I've seen a couple of mentions about several other states joining the Texas lawsuit (specifically at least Florida, Arkansas, Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, South Carolina and South Dakota, with an expectation of even more to join shortly), is there any truth to it, or only rumours?



So... 17 other states have joined in support of Texas?  :wacko:

Either this is purely political theatre with no intended consequences or having almost half the country so vehemently opposed to the result of the elections doesn't bode well for civic peace and the sanity of political discourse in the coming years.

Darth Wagtaros

It is theater. WIth a very high cover charge. 
PDH!

grumbler

So some news outlets are reporting that the 17 states have "joined Texas" in this lawsuit by filing an amicus brief,  while my understanding was that an amicus brief was filed to avoid taking sides, while still participating.

Am I missing the meaning of amicus curiae, or are these outlets missing it?
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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Razgovory

This is some of the weirdest shit I've ever seen.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Barrister

Quote from: grumbler on December 09, 2020, 07:27:50 PM
So some news outlets are reporting that the 17 states have "joined Texas" in this lawsuit by filing an amicus brief,  while my understanding was that an amicus brief was filed to avoid taking sides, while still participating.

Am I missing the meaning of amicus curiae, or are these outlets missing it?

Filing an amicus brief means you aren't joining the lawsuit as a party, but it's generally not fair to say that the amicus is 'avoiding taking sides'.  They definitely have a point of view that usually more-or-less coincides with one of the parties.  If you didn't have something to say about the question at hand you wouldn't file an amicus brief.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: grumbler on December 09, 2020, 07:27:50 PM
So some news outlets are reporting that the 17 states have "joined Texas" in this lawsuit by filing an amicus brief,  while my understanding was that an amicus brief was filed to avoid taking sides, while still participating.
It may be different in the US but amicus in UK and the European courts normally have a side and a position. It may not align exactly with either side but it's basically to make sure that their, relevant points are heard by the court.

Edit: Same as BBoy says.

An example in the UK would be that regulators quite often join - so the actual case may be between say an individual and some company/organisation they're alleging has broken the regulation. The regulator will often join to advance their interpretation in the courts.
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Sheilbh

I hope Rudy gets better - but I am particularly disappointed he can't be involved in this:
Let's bomb Russia!

Caliga

Quote from: Razgovory on December 09, 2020, 09:28:59 PM
This is some of the weirdest shit I've ever seen.
Not really if you know Donald's history.  If at first you don't succeed, sue, sue again.
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katmai

Quote from: Sheilbh on December 10, 2020, 07:54:50 AM
I hope Rudy gets better - but I am particularly disappointed he can't be involved in this:

thats the same dumbass who wrote an opinion piece that came out shortly after Harris was nominated as VP saying she wasn't eligible since her parents weren't naturalized citizens at time of her birth.
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