US Election Week 2020

[Tamas]

The future will be multiracial, working class, socially conservative populism and I can't wait

[Valmy]

Which is why I don't follow. I'm not sure why just anyone is better than Pelosi.

Ok I did not expect to be taken so literally. I don't think AOC is the better choice. I was just expressing exasperation.

[Razgovory]

Why does anyone still believe Biden will still win?

[FunkMonk]

Donnie and the GOP won Florida bigly and the state passed a $15 minimum wage.

Electoral realignment is a helluva rollercoaster.

[garbon]

Which is why I don't follow. I'm not sure why just anyone is better than Pelosi.

Ok I did not expect to be taken so literally. I don't think AOC is the better choice. I was just expressing exasperation.

Okay well let me say I think the opposite. I think Pelosi has generally been a good foil to Trump and have been happy she stuck around to do so.

[Valmy]

Odd because it appears that many in the house who lost, did so when their opponents succesfully linked them to Liberal Pelosi. How would AOC help that?

On the main road entering Atlanta, there was a big Trump billboard. It had a picture of trump, statement to Vote Trump, and the tagline,

"Its America vs. Communism"

Well that is going to be the narrative even when we run Joe Biden. So will the Democrats suffer running actual Socialists? The Republicans showed leaning into the caricature is not the worst thing.

I don't know. Populist leftism might be where things go. That might be the new Democrats.

Or will the center hold? I hope so but I don't see the leftists and progressives aligning themselves with us indefinitely. I don't know. I am worried about the future of the Party and the country for that matter.

[Valmy]

Donnie and the GOP won Florida bigly and the state passed a $15 minimum wage.

Electoral realignment is a helluva rollercoaster.

Yeah see? Legalizing drugs, raising the minimum wage, and all that leftwing stuff has never been more popular. But we are too centrist to really own it and take advantage.

[crazy canuck]

Pelosi needs to go yesterday. I am willing to tolerate anybody, freaking AOC, anybody. Let's just get somebody with a cause and message to get the party united. Especially if Biden ends up winning, as anti-Trumpism isn't going to work as well as a cause without Trump around.

Anti-Trumpism didnt work well with Trump.

[Barrister]

Why does anyone still believe Biden will still win?

If you take the three states where Biden is leading: WIsconsin, Michigan and Nevada - he is at 270 EV.

Now I'm not calling or predicting anything here - but Biden certainly has "paths to victory".  Plus there's Pennsylvania which everyone said would be super late in counting early ballots, and sure enough they are.

[Syt]

What's going on with the Senate special election Georgia?

Raphael Warnock DEM 31.9%
Kelly Loeffler *GOP 26.5
Doug Collins GOP 20.4
Deborah Jackson DEM 6.6
Matt Lieberman DEM 2.8

An estimated 90% of votes have been counted.
* Incumbent

The three way split looks a bit odd, esp. since it's two GOP candidates cannibalizing each other. Kelly Loeffler rings a bell - wasn't she some sort of nutjob?

[crazy canuck]

Why does anyone still believe Biden will still win?

Because all the outstanding votes being counted are the mail in ballots.

[celedhring]

If the results hold and Biden becomes president, I'm going to take a moderate amount of enjoyment on the GOP having their Ralph Nader moment:

Scott Walker
@ScottWalker
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If it holds, @LPNational candidate got 38,000 votes in Wisconsin and margin between @JoeBidenand @realDonaldTrump is less than 21,000 votes. #Elections2020

[Valmy]

If Joe holds the states he is currently leading in, he wins. If that happens then it was Arizona that won it for Joe which would kind of mean that Trump attacking John McCain all those times ultimately lost him his second term.

Ghost McCain might have his revenge.

[Barrister]

What's going on with the Senate special election Georgia?

Raphael Warnock DEM 31.9%
Kelly Loeffler *GOP 26.5
Doug Collins GOP 20.4
Deborah Jackson DEM 6.6
Matt Lieberman DEM 2.8

An estimated 90% of votes have been counted.
* Incumbent

The three way split looks a bit odd, esp. since it's two GOP candidates cannibalizing each other. Kelly Loeffler rings a bell - wasn't she some sort of nutjob?

Kelly Loeffler is the one who ran the ads favourably calling herself more conservative than Atilla the Hun.

This is a jungle primary where the top two candidates go to a run-off, no matter if they're from the same party or not.

[Razgovory]

Alternatively, eliminate rural poverty.

Honestly, neither side is that interested in that.  The last person to do that was LBJ.  Rural poverty is bad, worse than Urban poverty.  It's harder to notice because it's spread thin across the whole US.  Urban poverty is much easier to see.  It's concentrated in big cities.  The worst poverty is Indian reservations.  That shit is dire.