US Election Week 2020

[DGuller]

Why does anyone still believe Biden will still win?

If you take the three states where Biden is leading: WIsconsin, Michigan and Nevada - he is at 270 EV.

Now I'm not calling or predicting anything here - but Biden certainly has "paths to victory".  Plus there's Pennsylvania which everyone said would be super late in counting early ballots, and sure enough they are.

You're taking Arizona for granted, which it may not be.

[Valmy]

The runoff between Warnock and Loeffler will be ferocious and close but Loeffler would be the favorite to pull it out. There will be no libertarian candidate to pull a few votes away.

[Syt]

Kelly Loeffler is the one who ran the ads favourably calling herself more conservative than Atilla the Hun.

Ah yes, I remember now.

This is a jungle primary where the top two candidates go to a run-off, no matter if they're from the same party or not.

Ok, so this is basically locked in as GOP, then.

[derspiess]

The AP called Arizona for Biden before midnight last night and haven't budged from their call since.

Fox News called it for him almost right after polls closed.  Everyone was giving shit to the dude that called it but he stuck to his guns.

[Razgovory]

Why does anyone still believe Biden will still win?

If you take the three states where Biden is leading: WIsconsin, Michigan and Nevada - he is at 270 EV.

Now I'm not calling or predicting anything here - but Biden certainly has "paths to victory".  Plus there's Pennsylvania which everyone said would be super late in counting early ballots, and sure enough they are.

You're in good with the Lord, you should try praying for us.  I'm not religious and even if I tried I'd screw it up.  I tend to piss people off.  Also, I don't remember the "Hail, Mary".  I get lost when it starts talking about fruit.

[Valmy]

Alternatively, eliminate rural poverty.

Honestly, neither side is that interested in that.  The last person to do that was LBJ.  Rural poverty is bad, worse than Urban poverty.  It's harder to notice because it's spread thin across the whole US.  Urban poverty is much easier to see.  It's concentrated in big cities.  The worst poverty is Indian reservations.  That shit is dire.

Universal Basic Income would do it.

That is my cure for populism.

[Barrister]

Why does anyone still believe Biden will still win?

If you take the three states where Biden is leading: WIsconsin, Michigan and Nevada - he is at 270 EV.

Now I'm not calling or predicting anything here - but Biden certainly has "paths to victory".  Plus there's Pennsylvania which everyone said would be super late in counting early ballots, and sure enough they are.

You're taking Arizona for granted, which it may not be.

I'm not predicting anything, so I'm not taking anything for granted.

But Raz asked why would anyone still believe Biden could win.  His path to victory is obvious - he just has to win the states he is currently leading in.

[Razgovory]

Man, I don't have it together at the best of times.  This is more than I can stand.  I'm going to eat cheap Chinese food.

[Syt]

Also, I don't remember the "Hail, Mary".

I thought you just throw the ball as far as you can and hope for the best?

[Caliga]

Man, I don't have it together at the best of times.  This is more than I can stand.  I'm going to eat cheap Chinese food.

Panda Express? 

[crazy canuck]

Alternatively, eliminate rural poverty.

Honestly, neither side is that interested in that.  The last person to do that was LBJ.  Rural poverty is bad, worse than Urban poverty.  It's harder to notice because it's spread thin across the whole US.  Urban poverty is much easier to see.  It's concentrated in big cities.  The worst poverty is Indian reservations.  That shit is dire.

Universal Basic Income would do it.

That is my cure for populism.

Well that or health care, or both.


The failing of Liberal Democracy in the US is that it sold out and now the people who were supposed to benefit from that political economic system are getting screwed allowing Trumpism to flourish.

[crazy canuck]

Man, I don't have it together at the best of times.  This is more than I can stand.  I'm going to eat cheap Chinese food.

Be well Raz 

[Valmy]

The failing of Liberal Democracy in the US is that it sold out and now the people who were supposed to benefit from that political economic system are getting screwed allowing Trumpism to flourish.

That is certainly the Progressive critique.

[alfred russel]

Odd because it appears that many in the house who lost, did so when their opponents succesfully linked them to Liberal Pelosi. How would AOC help that?

On the main road entering Atlanta, there was a big Trump billboard. It had a picture of trump, statement to Vote Trump, and the tagline,

"Its America vs. Communism"

Well that is going to be the narrative even when we run Joe Biden. So will the Democrats suffer running actual Socialists? The Republicans showed leaning into the caricature is not the worst thing.

I don't know. Populist leftism might be where things go. That might be the new Democrats.

Or will the center hold? I hope so but I don't see the leftists and progressives aligning themselves with us indefinitely. I don't know. I am worried about the future of the Party and the country for that matter.

I guess the larger context is that I see the billboard with my friends/family and just laugh. It leaves us completely cold.

One of my grandfathers was a lawyer, the other an engineer. Both my parents went to law school. I work in business in a major city. For 100 years people like me have been the core of the republican party in the South. Now the Republicans aren't even trying to reach out to me--it is an extremely abrupt change for a party that nominated Romney in 2012. I don't know who "America vs. Communism" appeals to, but the Republican party seems to be doing pretty well in Georgia so I guess it is working.

[crazy canuck]

The failing of Liberal Democracy in the US is that it sold out and now the people who were supposed to benefit from that political economic system are getting screwed allowing Trumpism to flourish.

That is certainly the Progressive critique.

Not just from Progressives.  One needs to have blinders on to not acknowledge the effect of election spending rules and how that impacts your politics.