US Election Week 2020

[Josephus]

So Trump himself is now claiming victory in Pennsylvania, Georgia, North Carolina and Michigan, where he claims that ballots have been dumped.

Do the claims give him a casus belli?

Good analogy. And yes. Yes they do. There's that percentage of his base that believes everything he says . (And the reason he says what he says is to galvanize them). And it' s these people, who, if Biden wins, will believe they have a just cause to raise shit.

[DGuller]

A quick note about other elections: ranked choice voting was defeated in MA.  That sucks.

[alfred russel]

Florida counts as they come in, which is why they can report so quickly. They do report party affiliation of people who have voted so far (I think, I saw those numbers in tweets and don't recall the source). Dem dominated mail in ballots don't appear to have suppressed the GOP in FL, nor does it look like there was any leak of results, so that seems to be a pretty minor problem. Better to allow states to count ballots early so we can get faster results.

If your thoughts are that there are pros and cons but on the balance they favor starting counts early, I agree it seems to work better in Florida. That is different than saying the delay is entirely about discrediting the process. There are democratic states with similar delays. Are they trying to discredit the process?

[The Minsky Moment]

This isn't for you or the courts or any lame law stuff. It's for his supporters. He's telling them he's not going down without a fight.  And they'll love him for it.

And so?
They loved him going to the election, wasn't enough to carry him over.

[DGuller]

PA is now up to 78%.  Good, please keep trending this way.  We really need some redundancy, in case NV or AZ does something weird.

[Caliga]

Nate Silver (I know, I know) seems to think Biden could still win Georgia, too.

[Josquius]

Nevada gives me the heeby jeebies.
Las Vegas is just so Trump.

[Caliga]

Nevada gives me the heeby jeebies.
Las Vegas is just so Trump.

Did you explain why you asserted this earlier?   I don't know why you think Vegas is 'so Trump'.

[Eddie Teach]

@AR Southerners are lazy, duh.

Guilty as charged. 

[katmai]

A quick note about other elections: ranked choice voting was defeated in MA.  That sucks.

it apparently here as well, though we have 120,000 absentee ballots that won't be counted till next week.

[alfred russel]

Nevada gives me the heeby jeebies.
Las Vegas is just so Trump.

Tyr, it is so weird you keep saying that. In 2016, Las Vegas' voted for Clinton over Trump 52-42. It was literally the least Trump county in all of Nevada (and one of only two not to support him).

[Josquius]

Nevada gives me the heeby jeebies.
Las Vegas is just so Trump.

Did you explain why you asserted this earlier?   I don't know why you think Vegas is 'so Trump'.

Fake. Vulgar.
Gambling, sex work, and tacky hotels.
A poor man's vision of wealth and success.
They just seem so made for each other.

[Eddie Teach]

Nevada gives me the heeby jeebies.
Las Vegas is just so Trump.

Did you explain why you asserted this earlier?   I don't know why you think Vegas is 'so Trump'.

It's tawdry and garish.

Of course, New York is naturally the most Trumplike place in the country and they soundly rejected him

[Caliga]

Fake. Vulgar.
Gambling, sex work, and tacky hotels.
A poor man's vision of wealth and success.
They just seem so made for each other.

I see.  Well let me tell you a little story.  My parents live about ten miles outside Atlantic City, which, in the 1980s, was 'Trump's town', what with the casinos he had there.  Well guess what?  The town is a flaming dumpster fire since he got done using it up and throwing it away, and he's despised in the area (and went down in flames in New Jersey in both 2016 and 2020).

He hasn't done that to Vegas and never will, but don't assume just because a town seems 'sleazy' that Trump is popular there.  Atlantic City is a sleazy shithole, too.

[Caliga]

Of course, New York is naturally the most Trumplike place in the country and they soundly rejected him

Yeah, NYC is also very familiar with Trump and they've also twice now resoundingly rejected him.  When people get to really know Trump, they tend to do that.

One day, America as a whole will soundly reject Trump, too.  My hope is that he goes to prison after the election and so that day will come sooner rather than later.  DON'T PARDON HIM GRANDPA JOE