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Started by Barrister, November 03, 2020, 01:17:04 PM

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celedhring

I love that he mentions Indra (Spanish tech company that also deals with Spanish elections), which is also a common target for Spanish conspiracy nuts each election. I wonder who's feeding him this  :lol:

Solmyr

I'm sure grumbler will be along shortly to tell us how American institutions are strong while the President refuses to accept defeat, actively hindering his successor's job, and half the country apparently thinks that's okay.

Tamas

I mean technically he has not lost until the electors cast their votes a month from now, has he?

Habbaku

The title should be updated to US Election Quarter 2020-2021.
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grumbler

Quote from: Solmyr on November 15, 2020, 12:38:58 PM
I'm sure grumbler will be along shortly to tell us how American institutions are strong while the President refuses to accept defeat, actively hindering his successor's job, and half the country apparently thinks that's okay.

I see that Trump is not the only person who loves making strawman arguments.  :lol:
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grumbler

Quote from: Tamas on November 15, 2020, 12:57:32 PM
I mean technically he has not lost until the electors cast their votes a month from now, has he?

Yes.  In modern times, the losers have conceded before the EC meets, but I don't think that that will happen this time.  It's a moot point, as the Administrator of the GAO can kick off the transition before then.
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katmai

Quote from: grumbler on November 15, 2020, 01:51:44 PM
Quote from: Tamas on November 15, 2020, 12:57:32 PM
I mean technically he has not lost until the electors cast their votes a month from now, has he?

Yes.  In modern times, the losers have conceded before the EC meets, but I don't think that that will happen this time.  It's a moot point, as the Administrator of the GAO can kick off the transition before then.
that doesn't seem to be likely this year no?
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grumbler

Quote from: katmai on November 15, 2020, 05:21:41 PM
that doesn't seem to be likely this year no?

That depends of how much of a Trump loyalist the GAO Administrator is.  He can announce the transition and, since he works for Congress (and has a 15-year term with 5 years to go) get away with it, I think.  For what it is worth, he was nominated by Obama.
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katmai

Ah sorry I was confusing the GSA and GAO.
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Grey Fox

What's the role of the accountability office in the transition?
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Grey Fox on November 15, 2020, 07:43:38 PM
What's the role of the accountability office in the transition?

None AFAIK.  (General Accounting Office).

On a totally different note, what ever happened to the millions of people who were going to be suppressed by voter ID laws?

grumbler

Quote from: katmai on November 15, 2020, 07:05:53 PM
Ah sorry I was confusing the GSA and GAO.

Actally, it was me that turned them around.  You are correct that it is the GSA, not the GAO.  I was wondering why the law said "Administrator" when the title of the head of GAO is called the Comptroller General.  The head of the GSA is Emily W. Murphy, who has refused to allow the transition to begin, on Trump's orders.  That's okay for the nonce, as the results haven't been certified and Trump has not conceded.  It will be a problem later, though.
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Valmy

Well we had the highest voter turnout since women got the right to vote so it could be those people found a way to get an ID. Of course I don't know how many states have voter ID laws and if that correlates to turnout or not.
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33 states have a voter ID law.